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Old 05-29-2002, 01:21 AM   #11
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Originally posted by RudeDawg:
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I almost avoided this because of how disgustingly PC this board has become, but my opinion is as valid as anyone else.

The only problem with the execution is that we fed, clothed and sheltered the murderer for five years. We wait to long, here in Texas, to carry out the executions. We also spend too much money trying to execute them in a humane way. Stabbing or cutting a throat is free, and the knife can be washed and re-used. [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]

No, I am not joking.

If this gets me banned, oh well.
I agree. How much is a box of 30-30 shells?? $20??? Firing Squad works too. Let the Army get some practice in. Theres the "pop up" target range too.

Most criminals in the state of Texas that are awaiting Execution wait (generally) a minimum of 10 years and average 14 years. An "old timer" on deathrow has been waiting 18 to 20 years at a cost of $35,000 a year BEFORE medical expenses.

Buy the 30-30 shells.
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Old 05-29-2002, 01:22 AM   #12
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I almost avoided this because of how disgustingly PC this board has become, but my opinion is as valid as anyone else.

The only problem with the execution is that we fed, clothed and sheltered the murderer for five years. We wait to long, here in Texas, to carry out the executions. We also spend too much money trying to execute them in a humane way. Stabbing or cutting a throat is free, and the knife can be washed and re-used. [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]

No, I am not joking.

If this gets me banned, oh well.
I'm completely with you. I believe that punishment should be quick and final. I guarantee that if people knew they would die right away, they would think twice about commiting a crime.
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Old 05-29-2002, 01:48 AM   #13
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I know this is going to come up so Im gonna go ahead and start it:

The Death Sentence does NOT deter ANYONE from committing MURDER.

No but it keeps THAT guy from doing it again!!!!!!
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Old 05-29-2002, 01:57 AM   #14
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A leniant sentence to minors should be given for vandalism NOT murder.
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Old 05-29-2002, 02:41 AM   #15
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true, he isnt old enough to vote, or drink, or buy porn, or anything else, but he IS old enough to know right from wrong, and old enough to make his own decisions. he knew what he was doing, he knew the consequences of his actions, and now he has to live with them. true, he may be sentenced to death, but that is justice. laws state that murder is punishable by death, the punishment should fit the crime, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, etc. i say he should at least get the choice of death though. i would opt for good ole fireing squad, or kill him in the same manner as the one HE killed.
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Old 05-29-2002, 04:14 AM   #16
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And then they call the US a civilized country, shees.

Anyway, the question i always ask myself is this. How many innocents are you willing to put to death ? I mean, if murderers don't get convicted, and it happened, then it stands to reason that innocent people will get convicted simply on the basis that they couldn't afford a good enough lawyer. This guy might have done a crime, i don't know the full story therefor i say might, but does the exucution of 1, or 1 million for that matter, criminals justify the execution of 1 innocent ?
Secondly, was he a threat ? I mean, i can see some justification in putting an end to a psychopat because if you release him, he's probably going to do it again. But was this guy really a threat. It seems that, from what i read, the eye for an eye comment is mostly used and you guys jump on frying somebody, even if he isn't a threat anymore. I do agree that this is somewhat hard to prove.
And saying that president Bush, and i use that term losely, didn't see any reason to overturn the death penalty is almost saying that the pope is Catholic.
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Old 05-29-2002, 04:55 AM   #17
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The way I see this is that you should not be able to murder ANYONE; minor or adult, criminal or innocent, man or woman...
The death penalty breaks one simple rule which we learn at 5 or 6-

TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT!!
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Old 05-29-2002, 05:17 AM   #18
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Very well said Lennon. It is a bit dodgy for a society to say basically - "All life is sacred, so because this man took a life that was sacred we can take his life.". Either no one should kill or it is ok to kill. Make your mind up.

I personally just have a problem with anyone thinking they have the right to kill another person under any circumstances. I don't care how many people voted for them they shouldn't have the power of life and death in my view.
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Old 05-29-2002, 05:59 AM   #19
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Well, I agree with the eye for any eye bit. The guy who was executed sure decided HE had the power of life and death over someone. Hes a proven murder so theres no way to know if he WONT ever be a threat to someone again. If the government thinks it was bad enough they remove the possibility. And in Texas you are auotmaticly given a minimum of 3 appeals. So his lawyers couldnt find enough reason to get his sentence commuted to life.

I find it truly comical that EVERY SINGLE person on deathrow finds God or Allah or Buddha. Well. They didnt give a flip about religion until it was their own life on the line.

In Texas just last year ,I believe it was, the first womam in the state was executed for a double murder. She bragged to the police when she was caught that EVERY time she hit her ex-boyfriend and his woman with a PICK-AXE she had an ORGASM.

Funny that she found God and was Saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ AFTER she had been given the death sentence. Im glad she got saved. Whether or not God will let her through the golden gates of Heaven remains to be seen. I hope judgement day is a long way off.

Why is it every time a pitbull attacks someone (even if its defending its own yard or home) its considered a Dangerous Animal or Dangerous Breed and the dog is put down???? So why is it that a human can go on a killing spree and murder 14 people some people think he should be given a second chance. Its been my experience that dogs are alot more trustworthy given the second chance.

Ive read about the kids who have been mauled by dogs. Ive also read about serial murderers who've been sent to prison for molesting and killing 9 year olds only to get out of prison 20 years later BECAUSE THE COURT THOUGHT THEY HAD CHANGED AND WERE NO LONGER A THREAT, only to commit almost identicle crimes to what they had been convicted for in the first place.

Nobody cares if the dog gets a second chance.
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Old 05-29-2002, 06:29 AM   #20
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Personally I am against death as a punishment in most cases except for rape, paedophilia or murder. He knew what he did was wrong yet he still did it, usually an eye for an eye would not be ideal, but in this case he had to be removed so that he did not hurt others. Of course he could have just gotten a life sentence, but why clothe, feed and shelter a man his entire life as reward for killing someone?
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