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nick1979 · 01-27-2002, 07:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Durwyn:
Indeed it doesnt... But self defence doesnt always work, as a matter of fact it really rarely works, espesially on someone who is new to fighting. Trust me, its a whole different thing when you're actually learning self defence moves in a school with your teacher and a nice atmosphere, and when you're on a dark corner of a city street getting attacked by some dangerously looking thugs, its a rush, shock and a whole different experience, I knew people who were really great at my Martial art school but when it came to the real thing they totally lost control, confidence, and any desire to even fight. Thats is exactly where the gun comes in. Besides it doesnt have to big a big gun, any kind will work [img]smile.gif[/img] . Most of the robbers and thugs themselves are naturally wimps, they will run away even if you point an empty gun at them hehe [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Totally agree

Scronan · 01-27-2002, 08:01 PM

Hi Cloudy

Very glad to hear you are safe and sound!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

As a student of many martial arts systems I wanted to comment on your post. You did really well, the most important part is that you kept your cool, easier said than done.

Self defence classes are great, but even then many have limitations. The most imporant part is that you train your awareness, which we are all are born with, and some learn faster than others.

One of my best kung fu teachers used to talk about the mindset we adopt that makes us a victim or a survivor. He had said to act neither timid or brave, and his words rang true since had been in many real life fights and had lived to tell his stories. He said the key is neutrality...you don't appear to be ready to fight but also your not giving away any of your space to others. From this neautral point, anything that the situations calls for, be it fight or flight can come.

A lot of people study martial arts and never learn this deep awareness, or practice where their school has put many limitations on the training. I'm not advocating full contact death matches, but I've seen many people who can do flying kicks or break boards and bricks, but would get annilated in a real fight.

Being in the wrong place at the wrong time can get ANYONE, even the greatest martial artist in the world if their numbers up.

Just look, listen and feel with your higher senses, there's a lot out there to experience when you do. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Again, I'm very glad you are safe......

Best,

Scronan

slackerboy · 01-27-2002, 08:08 PM

I am a gun owner and will soon be getting my permit to carry a concealed weapon. I believe it is a very responsible thing to do, not only for my protection but for the protection for everyone around me. If more Law abiding citizens were to carry weapons, criminals would be less inclined to act.

Larry_OHF · 01-27-2002, 08:37 PM

My wife and I have read all of your posts together, and she has brought up an interesting question. Some women, herself included, tend to lose their voice in "extreme situations", thus being unable to scream.

What are your suggestions for those that have this problem???

Snicker · 01-27-2002, 08:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Larry_OHF:

My wife and I have read all of your posts together, and she has brought up an interesting question. Some women, herself included, tend to lose their voice in "extreme situations", thus being unable to scream.

What are your suggestions for those that have this problem???

My suggestion would be for such people to not travel alone at night, or in secluded areas, as this will make them more vunerable to attack. Also they should not drive in busy streets alone, especialy not with their car doors unlocked.

--Chocolate Bar.

Glorfindel · 01-27-2002, 08:57 PM

Ok well I c that most of u r tending towards guns..... but what about the small trouble that you cant really get any guns around here nemore???? Im pretty sure that only a few guns are aloud now and u need a hard to get permit.... we got 2 guns... but I dont think u can get Pistols in Oz at all nemore... all we got is 2 Rifles... and ur not exactly gonna go carrying them around town [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] .... but then again Im just pointing this out... its not really a problem 4 me cause im 14 and live in a 25000ppl town.... not eactly a thriving metropolis [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Downunda · 01-27-2002, 08:58 PM

I suggest carrying a small air horn like they use in sports matches, my mum carries one with her everywhere. If it's legal where you are I'd also recommend taking mace/pepper spray or a tazer with you if you go walking by yourself, Guns are not only expensive but if the criminal gets it off you then it just adds to your problem. Martial arts are good if you have years to invest training otherwise self defense classes will do, bith of these options are also great ways to stay in shape. If all else fails, kick 'em in the nuts and run like hell! hehe

Glorfindel · 01-27-2002, 09:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Downunda:
If all else fails, kick 'em in the nuts and run like hell! hehe

Now I dont know about nebody else.... but that is just wrong..... completly wrong.... u have NO idea how much that hurts

Btw

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LennonCook · 01-27-2002, 09:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Glorfindel:
Ok well I c that most of u r tending towards guns..... but what about the small trouble that you cant really get any guns around here nemore???? Im pretty sure that only a few guns are aloud now and u need a hard to get permit.... we got 2 guns... but I dont think u can get Pistols in Oz at all nemore... all we got is 2 Rifles... and ur not exactly gonna go carrying them around town [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] .... but then again Im just pointing this out... its not really a problem 4 me cause im 14 and live in a 25000ppl town.... not eactly a thriving metropolis [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

To get a gun liscence, you have to have a VERY good reason for needing a Gun, such as living out on a farm and having to kill injured animals. Self Defense does NOT count.
Also, you have to be over a certain age (18 i THINK), and you have to be 16 to carry a knife or blade.
And then, you can be prosecuted and turned from victim to assailent for possesing a potentially dangerous object, even a STICK!!

Politicians might be bad, but ours are worse..

nick1979 · 01-27-2002, 09:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by LennonCook:

To get a gun liscence, you have to have a VERY good reason for needing a Gun, such as living out on a farm and having to kill injured animals. Self Defense does NOT count.
Also, you have to be over a certain age (18 i THINK), and you have to be 16 to carry a knife or blade.
And then, you can be prosecuted and turned from victim to assailent for possesing a potentially dangerous object, even a STICK!!

Politicians might be bad, but ours are worse..

Wow that sucks. They just make commiting crimes even eaiser. Why do politicians always side with criminals? Mabye because most are just as bad.

01-27-2002, 07:56 PM	#21
nick1979 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: April 11, 2001 Location: Murfreesboro, TN, USA Age: 45 Posts: 333	quote: Originally posted by Durwyn: Indeed it doesnt... But self defence doesnt always work, as a matter of fact it really rarely works, espesially on someone who is new to fighting. Trust me, its a whole different thing when you're actually learning self defence moves in a school with your teacher and a nice atmosphere, and when you're on a dark corner of a city street getting attacked by some dangerously looking thugs, its a rush, shock and a whole different experience, I knew people who were really great at my Martial art school but when it came to the real thing they totally lost control, confidence, and any desire to even fight. Thats is exactly where the gun comes in. Besides it doesnt have to big a big gun, any kind will work [img]smile.gif[/img] . Most of the robbers and thugs themselves are naturally wimps, they will run away even if you point an empty gun at them hehe [img]smile.gif[/img] . Totally agree __________________

01-27-2002, 08:01 PM	#22
Scronan Zhentarim Guard Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Washington State Posts: 315	Hi Cloudy Very glad to hear you are safe and sound!! [img]smile.gif[/img] As a student of many martial arts systems I wanted to comment on your post. You did really well, the most important part is that you kept your cool, easier said than done. Self defence classes are great, but even then many have limitations. The most imporant part is that you train your awareness, which we are all are born with, and some learn faster than others. One of my best kung fu teachers used to talk about the mindset we adopt that makes us a victim or a survivor. He had said to act neither timid or brave, and his words rang true since had been in many real life fights and had lived to tell his stories. He said the key is neutrality...you don't appear to be ready to fight but also your not giving away any of your space to others. From this neautral point, anything that the situations calls for, be it fight or flight can come. A lot of people study martial arts and never learn this deep awareness, or practice where their school has put many limitations on the training. I'm not advocating full contact death matches, but I've seen many people who can do flying kicks or break boards and bricks, but would get annilated in a real fight. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time can get ANYONE, even the greatest martial artist in the world if their numbers up. Just look, listen and feel with your higher senses, there's a lot out there to experience when you do. [img]smile.gif[/img] Again, I'm very glad you are safe...... Best, Scronan __________________ Member of No Clans, Groups or Organizations.<br />But an all around nice guy.

01-27-2002, 08:08 PM	#23
slackerboy Gold Dragon Join Date: March 5, 2001 Location: smyrna, tn, usa Age: 46 Posts: 2,506	I am a gun owner and will soon be getting my permit to carry a concealed weapon. I believe it is a very responsible thing to do, not only for my protection but for the protection for everyone around me. If more Law abiding citizens were to carry weapons, criminals would be less inclined to act. __________________

01-27-2002, 08:37 PM	#24
Larry_OHF Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Midlands, South Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 14,759	My wife and I have read all of your posts together, and she has brought up an interesting question. Some women, herself included, tend to lose their voice in "extreme situations", thus being unable to scream. What are your suggestions for those that have this problem??? __________________

01-27-2002, 08:47 PM	#25
Snicker Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 27, 2002 Location: Timbuctu Age: 39 Posts: 22	quote: Originally posted by Larry_OHF: My wife and I have read all of your posts together, and she has brought up an interesting question. Some women, herself included, tend to lose their voice in "extreme situations", thus being unable to scream. What are your suggestions for those that have this problem??? My suggestion would be for such people to not travel alone at night, or in secluded areas, as this will make them more vunerable to attack. Also they should not drive in busy streets alone, especialy not with their car doors unlocked. --Chocolate Bar. __________________ You can say any foolish thing to a dog, and the dog will give you a look that says \"My god! You`re right! I never would have thought of that \" <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Big Grin]\" src=\"biggrin.gif\" />

01-27-2002, 08:57 PM	#26
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 36 Posts: 3,337	Ok well I c that most of u r tending towards guns..... but what about the small trouble that you cant really get any guns around here nemore???? Im pretty sure that only a few guns are aloud now and u need a hard to get permit.... we got 2 guns... but I dont think u can get Pistols in Oz at all nemore... all we got is 2 Rifles... and ur not exactly gonna go carrying them around town [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] .... but then again Im just pointing this out... its not really a problem 4 me cause im 14 and live in a 25000ppl town.... not eactly a thriving metropolis [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

01-27-2002, 08:58 PM	#27
Downunda Set - Egyptian God of Chaos Join Date: January 7, 2002 Location: Christchurch, New Zealand Age: 45 Posts: 2,975	I suggest carrying a small air horn like they use in sports matches, my mum carries one with her everywhere. If it's legal where you are I'd also recommend taking mace/pepper spray or a tazer with you if you go walking by yourself, Guns are not only expensive but if the criminal gets it off you then it just adds to your problem. Martial arts are good if you have years to invest training otherwise self defense classes will do, bith of these options are also great ways to stay in shape. If all else fails, kick 'em in the nuts and run like hell! hehe __________________ \"Doing stuff is overrated, like Hitler, he did lots of stuff, but doesn\'t everybody wish he\'d just stayed at home and smoked pot?!?\"

01-27-2002, 09:02 PM	#28
Glorfindel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: January 9, 2002 Location: Mt. Gambier, Australia Age: 36 Posts: 3,337	quote: Originally posted by Downunda: If all else fails, kick 'em in the nuts and run like hell! hehe Now I dont know about nebody else.... but that is just wrong..... completly wrong.... u have NO idea how much that hurts Btw WELCOME TO IW SNICKER [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

01-27-2002, 09:12 PM	#29
LennonCook Jack Burton Join Date: November 10, 2001 Location: Bathurst & Orange, in constant flux Age: 37 Posts: 5,452	quote: Originally posted by Glorfindel: Ok well I c that most of u r tending towards guns..... but what about the small trouble that you cant really get any guns around here nemore???? Im pretty sure that only a few guns are aloud now and u need a hard to get permit.... we got 2 guns... but I dont think u can get Pistols in Oz at all nemore... all we got is 2 Rifles... and ur not exactly gonna go carrying them around town [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] .... but then again Im just pointing this out... its not really a problem 4 me cause im 14 and live in a 25000ppl town.... not eactly a thriving metropolis [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] To get a gun liscence, you have to have a VERY good reason for needing a Gun, such as living out on a farm and having to kill injured animals. Self Defense does NOT count. Also, you have to be over a certain age (18 i THINK), and you have to be 16 to carry a knife or blade. And then, you can be prosecuted and turned from victim to assailent for possesing a potentially dangerous object, even a STICK!! Politicians might be bad, but ours are worse..

01-27-2002, 09:21 PM	#30
nick1979 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: April 11, 2001 Location: Murfreesboro, TN, USA Age: 45 Posts: 333	quote: Originally posted by LennonCook: To get a gun liscence, you have to have a VERY good reason for needing a Gun, such as living out on a farm and having to kill injured animals. Self Defense does NOT count. Also, you have to be over a certain age (18 i THINK), and you have to be 16 to carry a knife or blade. And then, you can be prosecuted and turned from victim to assailent for possesing a potentially dangerous object, even a STICK!! Politicians might be bad, but ours are worse.. Wow that sucks. They just make commiting crimes even eaiser. Why do politicians always side with criminals? Mabye because most are just as bad. __________________

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