just a question

Crimson · 02-03-2002, 10:43 PM

why are you guys/girls not playing BG2 or the ToB

Harry · 02-03-2002, 10:52 PM

i play both. and BG1 is a little more fun imo

Darkman · 02-03-2002, 11:32 PM

I have BG2 but I'm still having fun with BG1. Currently I'm working on a mage that I'm going to import into BG2. After that I might switch over to BG2 for a while... but we'll see (I'm a chronic restarter like some others on this board [img]smile.gif[/img] )

Scholarcs · 02-03-2002, 11:58 PM

because i am too poor to afford BG2..heheh

Crimson · 02-04-2002, 01:07 AM

thanx for the replies

Lemernis · 02-04-2002, 01:24 AM

I just could not get into BG2. I started a BG2 game but never finished it. I just felt no pull at all to do that. Since I wanted to play Dark Side anyway, I decided to do that instead of trying to finish BG2/ToB.

I think I may eventually return to finish my BG2 game some day. But for now I'm having a great time playing several different BG1/Tales parties I had always wanted to try. So now I have three Dark Side games going. I figure by the time I'm done with them NwN will be out.

[ 02-04-2002: Message edited by: Lemernis ]

Katherine · 02-04-2002, 03:33 AM

I started BG2, but I didn't like it much. The graphics were too much and the character paperdolls were very unattractive. Plus, I prefer the lower level gaming experience.

Katherine

Lavindathar · 02-04-2002, 04:56 AM

I play them both, and IWD. But im going through with a new character, hopefully all the way. Plus BG1 is a little more fun!!!!

Thaoloren · 02-04-2002, 05:03 AM

SO many reasons why BG1 is better, that I can't be bothered to type them all here.

Lemernis · 02-04-2002, 12:47 PM

Ditto what Thaoloren said, except I cannot resist listing them:

BG2 is very linear. BG1 is wide open--you do what you want, when you want (except for what is it? two? time sensitive quests). I really like that freedom to play the game almost any way I want in BG1.

Graphics:
I'm probably in the minority here but I actually think BG1's graphics are more appealing. Sure the textures in BG2 are a little smoother, but not by all that much, really. The color palette for BG2 is noticeably on the grayish, washed out side--it is intended to be a 'darker' world figuratively, and they helped create that mood by using less vibrant colors. In contrast BG1 may be a bit granier but in 32 color depth its looks pretty damn good, I'd say. Also in BG1 you get atmospheric lighting and weather changes.

The way the figures are drawn in BG2 is more caracitured; a subtle difference perhaps, but this annoys me. And I really do not prefer the 800 x 600 resolution which has the overall effect of shrinking the animations! The game starts to look like Starcraft with little bugs moving about on the screen instead of people.

Also, as Katherine noted, the paper doll and item BAMs for the inventory screen really look like crap in BG2.

The setting:
I prefer a sunnier, mostly outdoors (nicely balanced with plenty of dungeon crawling and city adventuring), classic northern European style setting to Amn's more Turkish/Byzantine style setting.

NPCs:
BG1 gives you 25 NPCs whereas BG2 gives you 16.

Lower level play:
The main reason for me. I realize BG2 is a continuation of BG1, but I felt very little continuity between the two games. What with the different graphic appearance of the characters, selection of a kit, and major changes to the profs system it felt more like I was starting with a high level new character.

What I enjoy most in BG1 is when my party is very low level and pushing the envelope by taking on battles that are barely within their ability. I realize that BG2 also scales difficulty, but I just didn't find it as satisfying to begin the game with all of those high level spells and magical weapons immediately available.

I would not argue that BG2 is better in the following ways:

Pathfinding is vastly improved.

Limited monster summoning, which unbalanced the game in BG1. (I still wouldn't use it much in BG2, as although it is perfectly legal I still think it unbalances the game.)

The higher level spells are a lot of fun (although Dark Side gives a lot of high level spells also).

More dialogue from NPCs.

The romances are interesting.

The spell animations are more sophisticated... although, again, the more caractitured drawing style of BG2 doesn't appeal to me very much, and this shows up in the spell effect animations.

[ 02-04-2002: Message edited by: Lemernis ]

02-03-2002, 10:52 PM	#2
Harry The Magister Join Date: January 27, 2002 Location: The Land of naked fraulicing nymphs where your every desire comes true Posts: 118	i play both. and BG1 is a little more fun imo __________________ Careful, now...there\'s some mighty queer people roamin\' the Docks, there is. You must always be on yer guard.-Commoner from BGII

02-03-2002, 11:32 PM	#3
Darkman Avatar Join Date: July 11, 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 42 Posts: 525	I have BG2 but I'm still having fun with BG1. Currently I'm working on a mage that I'm going to import into BG2. After that I might switch over to BG2 for a while... but we'll see (I'm a chronic restarter like some others on this board [img]smile.gif[/img] ) __________________ There more of it there is,<br />The less you see.

02-03-2002, 11:58 PM	#4
Scholarcs Red Dragon Join Date: December 5, 2001 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 38 Posts: 1,557	because i am too poor to afford BG2..heheh __________________ <br />\"A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five\" - Groucho Marx<br />Member of the ORT Clan. <br />\"Some birds are not meant to be caged because their feathers are too bright\"<br />Ma bouche sera la bouche des malheurs qui n\'ont point de bouche, ma voix, la liberté de celles qui s\'affaissent au cachot du désespoir. - Aimé Césaire<br />La plus perdue de toutes les journées est celle où l\'on n\'a pas ri. - Sébastien Roch Nicolas

02-04-2002, 01:24 AM	#6
Lemernis Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 611	I just could not get into BG2. I started a BG2 game but never finished it. I just felt no pull at all to do that. Since I wanted to play Dark Side anyway, I decided to do that instead of trying to finish BG2/ToB. I think I may eventually return to finish my BG2 game some day. But for now I'm having a great time playing several different BG1/Tales parties I had always wanted to try. So now I have three Dark Side games going. I figure by the time I'm done with them NwN will be out. [ 02-04-2002: Message edited by: Lemernis ] __________________ Exodus: Shadows of the South

02-04-2002, 04:56 AM	#8
Lavindathar Harper Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Lancs, England Age: 39 Posts: 4,729	I play them both, and IWD. But im going through with a new character, hopefully all the way. Plus BG1 is a little more fun!!!! __________________ =@

02-03-2002, 10:43 PM	#1
Crimson Dungeon Master Join Date: January 16, 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 55	why are you guys/girls not playing BG2 or the ToB

02-04-2002, 01:07 AM	#5
Crimson Dungeon Master Join Date: January 16, 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 55	thanx for the replies

02-04-2002, 03:33 AM	#7
Katherine Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: perdition Posts: 340	I started BG2, but I didn't like it much. The graphics were too much and the character paperdolls were very unattractive. Plus, I prefer the lower level gaming experience. Katherine

02-04-2002, 05:03 AM	#9
Thaoloren Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 2, 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 17	SO many reasons why BG1 is better, that I can't be bothered to type them all here.

02-04-2002, 12:47 PM	#10
Lemernis Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 611	Ditto what Thaoloren said, except I cannot resist listing them: BG2 is very linear. BG1 is wide open--you do what you want, when you want (except for what is it? two? time sensitive quests). I really like that freedom to play the game almost any way I want in BG1. Graphics: I'm probably in the minority here but I actually think BG1's graphics are more appealing. Sure the textures in BG2 are a little smoother, but not by all that much, really. The color palette for BG2 is noticeably on the grayish, washed out side--it is intended to be a 'darker' world figuratively, and they helped create that mood by using less vibrant colors. In contrast BG1 may be a bit granier but in 32 color depth its looks pretty damn good, I'd say. Also in BG1 you get atmospheric lighting and weather changes. The way the figures are drawn in BG2 is more caracitured; a subtle difference perhaps, but this annoys me. And I really do not prefer the 800 x 600 resolution which has the overall effect of shrinking the animations! The game starts to look like Starcraft with little bugs moving about on the screen instead of people. Also, as Katherine noted, the paper doll and item BAMs for the inventory screen really look like crap in BG2. The setting: I prefer a sunnier, mostly outdoors (nicely balanced with plenty of dungeon crawling and city adventuring), classic northern European style setting to Amn's more Turkish/Byzantine style setting. NPCs: BG1 gives you 25 NPCs whereas BG2 gives you 16. Lower level play: The main reason for me. I realize BG2 is a continuation of BG1, but I felt very little continuity between the two games. What with the different graphic appearance of the characters, selection of a kit, and major changes to the profs system it felt more like I was starting with a high level new character. What I enjoy most in BG1 is when my party is very low level and pushing the envelope by taking on battles that are barely within their ability. I realize that BG2 also scales difficulty, but I just didn't find it as satisfying to begin the game with all of those high level spells and magical weapons immediately available. I would not argue that BG2 is better in the following ways: Pathfinding is vastly improved. Limited monster summoning, which unbalanced the game in BG1. (I still wouldn't use it much in BG2, as although it is perfectly legal I still think it unbalances the game.) The higher level spells are a lot of fun (although Dark Side gives a lot of high level spells also). More dialogue from NPCs. The romances are interesting. The spell animations are more sophisticated... although, again, the more caractitured drawing style of BG2 doesn't appeal to me very much, and this shows up in the spell effect animations. [ 02-04-2002: Message edited by: Lemernis ] __________________ Exodus: Shadows of the South

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