10-07-2002, 09:31 PM | #31 | |
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He is most definatly crazy if you consider sociopathic or radical miltant actions to be crazy. The fact is Law enforcement is not geered to stop this kind of thing quickly. |
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10-07-2002, 10:40 PM | #32 | |
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The only profile of the Shooter (shooters?) that has produced the most solid leads is geographic profiling. Calculate the times between the incidents and create a mathematical model that predicts the location from which the Shooter most likely originates. In the thread I started (called Random Shooters) I hypothesized that this person was either a terrorist or the next logical step in the evolution of serial killers. Terrorist? Highly likely, since now people are afraid to go outside or send their children to school. The only hope of catching this kind of terrorist is to catch them in the act. Serial killer? Traditionally, serial killers are college-educated white males and are described as being very personable. They are caught because they usually prey on victims of their same ethnic background, typically of the opposite gender. The Shooter has avoided being profiled, because the victims are completely random, except for the method of crime being chosen. I did say in my previous thread that the Shooter wouldn't stop, because now he (most likely male) has experience and has so far avoided being caught. Whether or not the Shooter is highly intelligent or highly educated, he views himself as being more intelligent than "normal" people. [img]graemlins/erm.gif[/img] There I go again, being unusually verbose. I hope they catch the Shooter before the copycats happen..... [ 10-07-2002, 10:54 PM: Message edited by: Azred ]
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10-07-2002, 10:51 PM | #33 |
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Just wanted to put in my 2 cents worth:
First off, it's terrible the type of things these people have done (I'm assuming two cuz driver+passenger) and I hope they're caught before any more harm comes to anyone. My fav uncle lives in Maryland, and he's a colonel in the army and he's scared in a major sort of way. Second, saw a graph/statistics right after the Columbine shootings. It showed Canadian murder rate vs American murder rate. Without guns, almost the same. Without guns, US was like 8 times higher. Just saying...
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Curse me for a fool. The Shooter is not a serial killer; the Shooter is a terrorist. I'm not saying he has any links to the Middle East or Al Queda, but he is definitely a terrorist.
Serial killers choose their victims carefully, but the Shooter picks people almost at random. Almost, but not quite--he chooses only public places: schools, gas stations, parking lots, street corners, post offices, and front lawns thus far. Killing is not his goal, only shooting people, because the little boy and the woman in Fredericksburg have both survived. Besides, the Shooter seems to be two people (a driver and the shooter) and there has never been a pair acting in concert as a serial killer. The goal of a terrorist is to cause so much general panic that people cannot live their daily lives in a normal manner. Now, people there cannot go to school, refuel their cars, shop, drop off mail, walk through the city, or even mow their grass without thinking "Am I next?". The only way to catch the Shooter is to have such an overwhelming law enforcement/national guard presence that you effectively have martial law. [img]graemlins/erm.gif[/img] All I can say now is "oh, s***", and I never use language like that here. I certainly hope I'm wrong on this one....
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10-07-2002, 11:54 PM | #35 | |
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while some people are debating on the topic of gun control and its ethic values, I just like to say a few words about how terrible this crime truely is.
I know a lil about sniping of morden warfares from a civillian's point of view, so I'd like to comment a few words. if I make mistakes, John and others can feel free to correct me. no offense, but this shit is pretty fucked up. the mid-school's policy, the refrainment from outside activity is just not enough. sniper-rifle is a terrible tool, its master a terrible killer. I will use a M24 Sniper (a modified Remington 700 firing 7.62mm rounds) as an example. Sniping requires the mastery of many different skills other than marksmanship. In order to graduate, a student will have to successfully pass a variety of tasks, among them the following: unknown distance shooting for time (up to 800m), firing at moving targets during the day (400m-700m) and night (300m-600m), stalking over various terrain against two sniper instructor observers (requiring two shots at the same target undetected) etc etc In unlimited visibility condition (clear day), a sniper can detect and engage target up to 800 meters, which convert to approximately half a mile. In case you have no idea how long that is, it is about 8 street blocks, the distance from 1st Avenue to 8th Avenue on California Street, two third of the Golden Gate Bridge main span, or over twice of the height of the Empire State Building at New York. There is nothing more dangerous than a well aimed shot. Giving the vast population and the non-combat situation, anyone could easily become a victim at any moment, and the killers perfectly blend in with the civillians. Like the news said, the killings are random and can happen at a GREAT distance. No one is safe from the attack, no police force can prevent the crimes. And even if the Long-Range-shooter misses the first shot and the intended victim realizes the threat, there is virtually no chance of surviving a second. The pausing between each shot is approximately 1 second. The target can be your neighbor's son, your uncle, a stranger next to you on the sidewalk or yourself. It can happen the moment that you step out of your door going to work, but it is more likely when you are getting out of Macy's and returning to your car. The resounding blast like a popping shampion bottle will be the last thing you heard. It is just like that, completely unexpected, unseen, and coming out of nowhere. Worse, you die knowing the perpetrator may continuely comittee the same crimes many times over. I've read and heard many stories, and experienced (not in reality) it many times to come up with one conclusion: the power a sniper rifle grants is tremendous and terrrible. Thus if it falls into the wronghand, the damage will be sickening. You know I am not a person easily moved, but this crime disturbes/disgusts me to no end. And finally, a word for the sniper, differing from the cowards who act murder Quote:
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And at least over here not every idiot owns a gun; and looking at the number of idiots in our country, I'm *very* glad that's the case. Can you imagine football hooligans with guns? Those morons trying to invade the Government building on the night Fortuyn was killed? People taking measures in their own hands to "solve" problems with minorities in our country? Those are the moments I'm really glad owning guns isn't as easy as in the US.
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10-08-2002, 08:28 AM | #38 |
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I heard on the radio this morning that the kid that got shot yesterday is in serious, but stable condition. just wanted to pass it along.
250, for once I actually agree with you about something, good post about snipers. [ 10-08-2002, 08:32 AM: Message edited by: Morgeruat ]
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Back on topic....The kid who was shot yesterday is doing much better and trying to sit up int he hospital. he is still in serious condition but doing better! [img]smile.gif[/img] Good news! |
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