defrag error

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood · 12-17-2008, 10:32 AM

Does anyone know why this is happening?

Bungleau · 12-17-2008, 10:40 AM

Are you running on an administrator-privileged account? Did you do this right from a clean boot? Those can cause problems. Also, is there another defrag running at the moment, by chance? I just discovered mine is set to defrag automatically every Wednesday night...

I've also had problems in the past when there wasn't enough free space, but you're nowhere near that being an issue.

Have you run the scan disk looking for errors? Properties on the drive, tools, Check Now for error checking.

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood · 12-17-2008, 11:10 AM

This is my personal PC. I did do a clean boot, just to see if it would help. Could one of the other programs be taking over for it?

I would think even if it's automatic it would still run?

Bungleau · 12-17-2008, 02:38 PM

Forgot to ask what OS... and is it still the standard Windows defrag?

If it's currently running, it shouldn't launch another run (although I'd think you'd get a more meaningful error message). Something may be blocking it... look in the Event Viewer (Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Event Viewer) for clues. You might have to wander around a bit on it...

Apparently, some virus critters can also block defrag, among other things. Hate to bring that up, but...

Ilander · 12-17-2008, 02:51 PM

Unfortunately, that was the first thing I thought of, when I thought of why this might be happening...and then, I thought of hard drive failure, which could have damaged the disk defrag executable...because, if that's a 160 GB hard drive, I know it's getting kind of on the old side...

So, the first thing I would check would be the SMART data for the hard drive...you can find utilities on the Internet, though I always use Speedfan's built-in SMART abilities.

If you don't know what SMART is, it's the hard drive's built-in diagnostic software that monitors the health of the disc.

Speedfan is available here, and is also a good tool to have to check your system temperatures, and ensure that nothing gets too hot...but requires a little bit of work to get it to tell you which temperature corresponds to which component. Regardless, there's a tab for SMART monitoring, and a button that says "Perform an in-depth online analysis".

Bungleau · 12-17-2008, 02:51 PM

Some googling turned up this manual approach to running defrag:

Quote:

You should first run diskclean up utility before defrag,however to get it to
run,go to start,run,then type:cmd In cmd type: Defrag C: When its thru,
install xp cd,exit the info page,then in cmd type:Sfc /Scannow When the
bar graph is thru,type: CHKDSK C: /F Agree to restart,then type:EXIT
Restart computer,remove xp cd.Also,run the cmd window in min.,sometimes
the graph runs behind it.

It sounds straightforward, but usual precautions and such apply.

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood · 12-17-2008, 03:34 PM

sheesh,

What ever happened to:

C:run/defrag...

Bungleau · 12-17-2008, 03:56 PM

I hear you... have you run the error check yet?

Variol (Farseer) Elmwood · 12-17-2008, 04:16 PM

No, is that was you are referring to above?

Bungleau · 12-17-2008, 10:33 PM

That's what I was referring to earlier on... I think

Open Windows Explorer.

Right-click on the hard drive.

Select Properties.

Go to the Tools tab.

Next to Error Checking, click Check Now.

Check the boxed to automatically fix and to attempt recovery.

Wait... patiently, grasshopper. Don't plan on doing anything else... you could force it to restart.

12-17-2008, 10:32 AM	#1
Variol (Farseer) Elmwood Jack Burton Join Date: May 16, 2003 Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada Age: 58 Posts: 5,634	defrag error Does anyone know why this is happening? __________________ A MAN WHO WANTS FOR NOTHING HAS INFINITE WEALTH. (me)

12-17-2008, 10:40 AM	#2
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Re: defrag error Are you running on an administrator-privileged account? Did you do this right from a clean boot? Those can cause problems. Also, is there another defrag running at the moment, by chance? I just discovered mine is set to defrag automatically every Wednesday night... I've also had problems in the past when there wasn't enough free space, but you're nowhere near that being an issue. Have you run the scan disk looking for errors? Properties on the drive, tools, Check Now for error checking. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

12-17-2008, 11:10 AM	#3
Variol (Farseer) Elmwood Jack Burton Join Date: May 16, 2003 Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada Age: 58 Posts: 5,634	Re: defrag error This is my personal PC. I did do a clean boot, just to see if it would help. Could one of the other programs be taking over for it? I would think even if it's automatic it would still run? __________________ A MAN WHO WANTS FOR NOTHING HAS INFINITE WEALTH. (me)

12-17-2008, 02:38 PM	#4
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Re: defrag error Forgot to ask what OS... and is it still the standard Windows defrag? If it's currently running, it shouldn't launch another run (although I'd think you'd get a more meaningful error message). Something may be blocking it... look in the Event Viewer (Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Event Viewer) for clues. You might have to wander around a bit on it... Apparently, some virus critters can also block defrag, among other things. Hate to bring that up, but... __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

12-17-2008, 02:51 PM	#5
Ilander 20th Level Warrior Join Date: December 28, 2003 Location: Kentucky Age: 38 Posts: 2,820	Re: defrag error Unfortunately, that was the first thing I thought of, when I thought of why this might be happening...and then, I thought of hard drive failure, which could have damaged the disk defrag executable...because, if that's a 160 GB hard drive, I know it's getting kind of on the old side... So, the first thing I would check would be the SMART data for the hard drive...you can find utilities on the Internet, though I always use Speedfan's built-in SMART abilities. If you don't know what SMART is, it's the hard drive's built-in diagnostic software that monitors the health of the disc. Speedfan is available here, and is also a good tool to have to check your system temperatures, and ensure that nothing gets too hot...but requires a little bit of work to get it to tell you which temperature corresponds to which component. Regardless, there's a tab for SMART monitoring, and a button that says "Perform an in-depth online analysis". __________________ Is that what you really want to say?

12-17-2008, 03:34 PM	#7
Variol (Farseer) Elmwood Jack Burton Join Date: May 16, 2003 Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada Age: 58 Posts: 5,634	Re: defrag error sheesh, What ever happened to: C:run/defrag... __________________ A MAN WHO WANTS FOR NOTHING HAS INFINITE WEALTH. (me)

12-17-2008, 03:56 PM	#8
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Re: defrag error I hear you... have you run the error check yet? __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

12-17-2008, 04:16 PM	#9
Variol (Farseer) Elmwood Jack Burton Join Date: May 16, 2003 Location: Dartmouth, NS Canada Age: 58 Posts: 5,634	Re: defrag error No, is that was you are referring to above? __________________ A MAN WHO WANTS FOR NOTHING HAS INFINITE WEALTH. (me)

12-17-2008, 10:33 PM	#10
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	Re: defrag error That's what I was referring to earlier on... I think Open Windows Explorer. Right-click on the hard drive. Select Properties. Go to the Tools tab. Next to Error Checking, click Check Now. Check the boxed to automatically fix and to attempt recovery. Wait... patiently, grasshopper. Don't plan on doing anything else... you could force it to restart. __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

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