Reagan voted Greatest Living American!

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by skywalker: Reagan? You guys can have him! [img]smile.gif[/img] Mark

I wish we could have him back.

Here's a cool pro-Reagan site that loves to debunk liberal arguments against Reagan.

[skywalker]

I'm glad we can't.

Mark

[Night Stalker]

Originally posted by skywalker: Reagan? You guys can have him! [img]smile.gif[/img] Mark

Err ..... Mark .... did VT suceed from the Union since the last time I checked? Granted, VT is more politically removed from the rest of the country and they do have more Tree Huggers per capita (I think they also have more trees per sq mile ... must be ... 10 trees per Hugger) than any other state, but I thought they were still with us, kinda ..... [img]tongue.gif[/img] hehe

NOTE: I am not in any way being serious!! I lived in VT for 5 yrs (Northfield ...well Ok, went to school in Northfield) and really enjoyed it - though the winters are a bit long for me ....

[skywalker]

The comment was pointed not at the USA in general, but mainly at the fans posting in this thread actually.

I was never much of a fan of the ballooning deficits of the Reagan years among other things like Iran/Contra and our connections to the goings on in Central America. Seeing as how this is really a Right leaning thread I would be better shutting up and staying away from here.

Nothing worse than a liberal stinking up the place!

Mark

[ 12-14-2002, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: skywalker ]

[Night Stalker]

I was teasing ..... there's nothing wrong with disenting views. I do support Reagan, but there are a number of policies that I didn't agree with. Mainly the whole South America deal. I think our military was abused and prosituted out over issues that we had no buisness sticking our noses in during those times. But a lot of them were continuations of old policies (against Communism). The whole "War on Drugs" deal is a direct product of the Reagan Era (will we ever admit it's LOST?). Something we should not have wasted so much effort on.

[skywalker]

Originally posted by Night Stalker: I was teasing ..... there's nothing wrong with disenting views. I do support Reagan, but there are a number of policies that I didn't agree with. Mainly the whole South America deal. I think our military was abused and prosituted out over issues that we had no buisness sticking our noses in during those times. But a lot of them were continuations of old policies (against Communism). The whole "War on Drugs" deal is a direct product of the Reagan Era (will we ever admit it's LOST?). Something we should not have wasted so much effort on.

I guess there really IS something "wrong with disenting views" (not pointing at you, Night Stalker) as far as Eisenschwarz's views are concerned, it seems. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Mark

[Archie_Bunker]

Reagan shoulda been da Republican candidate in '76, not dat clumsy Jerry Ford.

I will admit somethin good came from da Carter years. Nothing like peanuts and Billy Beer after a hard days woirk!

[Gregster]

Well, I gotta admit-- I thought Ronnie was a fantastic President, and I love the job he did. However, before declaring the "Greatest Living American," I hope someone took a pulse...he's not been well lately.

Of course, honoring Ronald Reagan in any way is a great way for conservatives to tease liberals through the bars...ever notice all the stuff that's being re-named for Reagan? 'Cuz it's guaranteed to make liberals wet themselves and fall down kicking and screaming.

Throughout this thread I've noticed some of the following slights levelled against the dear old Gipper:

1. He neglected his duties during Iran/Contra...apparently by not being aware of what was going on. If he made a mistake, it was not watching every person in his administration from the VP down to the guy cleaning the toilets at the Treasury Office. Reagan was not a micro-manager, and his successes came from this. Now, if he'd had his hands in every little thing that happened, like Jimmy Carter...well, we wouldn't have sold any missiles to the Iranians to hurls at the Iraqis (a notion that certainly braks MY heart) but the economy would be in the toilet. Hooray.

2. People in his administration were locked up. Unlike all those other scandal-free Presidential administrations we've had...

3. Reagan was big Republican meanie who disliked black people. Social spending in real dollar terms under Reagan was 3 times what is was under Carter. The black middle class grew some 40-50%.

And have you ever noticed that when you criticize a liberal political figure for REAL personal failings (vs. the ones people ASSUME a conservative one has because he's...you know..."conservative") such as treason, lying and adultery **cough Clinton cough** liberals are so quick to point out how great the economy was was under that person's watch **cough Clinton cough** and how a strong economy excuses all else sense it shows he "was doing the job we elected him to do." Well, the economy was a Carnival in Rio during Reagan's run in office, but they never seem to wanna give him that. Besides, when a Republican is in office, only rich Yuppies benefit from the wealth...when a Democrat is running the show, only nice people who really need themoney and deserve it get rich.

[Ronn_Bman]

Originally posted by skywalker: I guess there really IS something "wrong with disenting views" (not pointing at you, Night Stalker) as far as Eisenschwarz's views are concerned, it seems. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Mark

Not to flame you or anything Mark, but I say point at whoever you want if you want to make a point about something, or better yet, why not just post it?

I always find it interesting that the only offensive remarks you comment on here at IW are those made against those who you personally like, or who you share a point of view with.

If you want to agree with Dramnek by telling me that by thinking Reagan was a good president I also think "Massacre, Genocide, torture and human rights violation is good", I'll tell you what I think of that, too.

[skywalker]

Well, I don't think I said I agree with all that Eisenschwarz posted. I did say that, in so many words, he has a right to post an opinion, even if you think:

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman: "Statements like the one above are pure crap."

I never said I like or dislike Eisenschwarz or that I agree or disagree with him. I have always said everyone has a right to post their thoughts without being kicked around. I'm sure yyou also agree with that...don't you Ronn?

I think that's a low blow when you say I only defend people I like.

I find most ultra left wing remarks that I hear and read offensive, but that doesn't mean they should be censured.

Mark