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Assigning monetary value to life and injuries is an attempt at compensation, not a definitive measurement on the value of peoples lives. A person can get 40 million dollars for injuring themself on the steps on the New York City library, yet someone injured defewnding America in war, only gets $250,000 or so. Are you suggesting that the unemployed thief who injures himself on the steps is worth more to America than the Marine simply because he gets more in compensation? Additionally, you are using AMOUNTS RECEIVED, not amounts contributed. Earnings potential, not contributions potential. What of the tireless humanitarian volunteer who gives their whole life towards imporving the lives of Americas children, thus ensurig the nations future. What if they are prevented from working because of injury. The earnings they may have received may have been paltry, but what of the children robbed of brilliance love and devotion? Is money the only way to measure worth? How much does love cost? How much is compassion per day? What about inspiration? What do I pay to get that? Hope? Is hope rising in value? Trust? Self esteem? Has the value of self esteem plummetted bacause someone flooded the market? |
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02-27-2003, 03:53 PM | #83 |
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I'm not defending it, Yorick. I am merely stating that monetary values are assigned to life itself. Doesn't that usurp the notion that society holds by the "ideal" that life is sacrosanct and worth more than any amount of money?
Please don't ask me to defend this. I'd do it as a devil's advocate just because I have counterargument distress disorder. But, I don't want to. I don't feel it's fair or accurate. Especially considering that even the "idealistic" companies who hate corporate executive greed, take Ben & Jerry's for instance, still pay their CEO $500 million per year. Or considering that a big hollywood star gets $20 million to make a movie. Or considering that Michael Jordan has earned more money from Nike that all total Nike employess in Asia where all Nike shoes are made - including those who died in that sweat-shop fire a few years back. |
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Or it represents one part of society, not society as a whole. Or it represents one section of one nations societies values, not values of humankind. I'm sure there are other societies which have less a value of human life. [img]smile.gif[/img] And others with more. Just as there are individuals who value their own life more than others. [ 02-27-2003, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: Yorick ] |
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Actually, quite technically Yorick, you are grouping all the damages under only the "Loss of Income" and "Loss of Consortium" portions of the lawsuit. Part of those damages are awarded to the Estate, i.e. the injured person, to pay for his pain and suffering and wrongful death. So, while society may view it the way you mention, the law certainly views the $1 mil. + pain and suffering as the value of the life itself.
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