USA Men's Basketball

[Lavindathar]

Originally Posted by Rikard T'Aranaxz Lucky the dutch will always dominate Korfball *highfives johnny*

Really wants to know what Korfball is!!

[thecarrotdude]

Originally Posted by Rikard T'Aranaxz Wait wait in 2006 you fielded Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Camilo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Dwight Howard In 2004 you fielded Allen Iverson, Tim Duncan, Camilo Anthony, Carlos Boozer, Dwight Howard and Amare Stoudemire How are these "mediocre NBA players"? Also compared to 2006 you added Carlos Boozer, Jason Kidd, Chris Paul, Tayshaun Prince, Micheal Redd and Deron Jameson I personally dont see how that makes the difference between mediocre NBA players in 2006 and superstars in 2008.

I never said we have superstars in 2008, maybe you should re-read my post. Most of these are mediocre players compared to the big three from the celtics, Elton Brand, Shaquille O'Neal, Ron Artest, Chauncey Billups, Tracy McGrady, Gilbert Arenas, Shawn Marion, Chris Paul.

I mean of course you would probably think these guys are ALL superstars. But believe it or not our league actually has many better players. Dwight Howard is definitely mediocre.

Originally Posted by Rikard T'Aranaxz You should have just send the Boston Celtics to the olympics.

Yea, right, if our players cared as much about the Olympics as they do for the NBA finals, we could probably use any of the teams that made it to the play offs and they would win the gold. But unfortunately not all of our players are up and willing to agree to a three year training (I think) for the Olympics.

[thecarrotdude]

Originally Posted by Lavindathar Really wants to know what Korfball is!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD_ZZkBV98s

its like basketball, but u cant dribble and you have to pass to another player to move the around. the ball is much smaller than a basketball, and the ring much bigger. theres no backboard

[Lavindathar]

Ah, we call that netball

[Memnoch]

I have a feeling Boozer's going to get posterized by someone again this Olympics.

[Lord]

Originally Posted by thecarrotdude Dwight Howard is definitely mediocre.

Dwight Howard is mediocre? Let's take a look at his playoff performance.

Against Toronto:
Game 1: 25 points, 22 boards, 6 blocks. Clearly a terrible performance.
Game 2: 29 points, 20 boards, 3 blocks.
Game 3: 19 points, 12 boards.
Game 4: 19 points, 16 boards, 8 blocks.
Game 5: 21 points, 21 boards, 3 blocks.

Against Detroit:
Game 2: 22 points, 18 boards, 2 blocks.
Game 3: 20 points, 12 boards, 6 blocks.
Game 5: 14 points, 17 boards, 3 blocks.

Dwight Howard was the single most dominant center in the NBA last year. He even out-performed Amare's center performance during the pre-Shaq trade, and Amare is one hell of a great player in the paint.

@Memnoch: yes, it really is a shame that some people decline to play for the USA team. I don't know if Rasheed Wallace was given an invite, but I'd love to see him out there. D'Antoni would have been a great help to a small ball team like this. I am curious to see how Krzyzewski positions his players.

[thecarrotdude]

Originally Posted by Lord Dwight Howard is mediocre? Let's take a look at his playoff performance. Against Toronto: Game 1: 25 points, 22 boards, 6 blocks. Clearly a terrible performance. Game 2: 29 points, 20 boards, 3 blocks. Game 3: 19 points, 12 boards. Game 4: 19 points, 16 boards, 8 blocks. Game 5: 21 points, 21 boards, 3 blocks. Against Detroit: Game 2: 22 points, 18 boards, 2 blocks. Game 3: 20 points, 12 boards, 6 blocks. Game 5: 14 points, 17 boards, 3 blocks.

yea, i went overboard when saying he is mediocre, but his ball handling skills are those of a 2 yr old, and his free throw percentage is low. look at his points each game, see how they are declining. anyone can do well against Toronto, they are a joke, but he was garbage against Detroit. you cant look at just stats and hope he will perform the same as he did in game 1 vs Toronto. he will get rebounds of course, he wont be a major force for team USA when playing against top teams of other countries.

Originally Posted by Lord @Memnoch: yes, it really is a shame that some people decline to play for the USA team. I don't know if Rasheed Wallace was given an invite, but I'd love to see him out there. D'Antoni would have been a great help to a small ball team like this. I am curious to see how Krzyzewski positions his players.

ha, im a pistons fan, but rasheed is just a liability. he is a major distraction to his teammates and he under performs in major games. the only reason I would "love to see him out there" is to see him cuss at opponents, and scream ball dont lie. no, he wasn't given a invite.

[Rikard T'Aranaxz]

Originally Posted by Lavindathar Ah, we call that netball

It's a different game sinse korfball is a mixed game :|

[Rikard T'Aranaxz]

Originally Posted by thecarrotdude I never said we have superstars in 2008, maybe you should re-read my post. Most of these are mediocre players compared to the big three from the celtics, Elton Brand, Shaquille O'Neal, Ron Artest, Chauncey Billups, Tracy McGrady, Gilbert Arenas, Shawn Marion, Chris Paul. I mean of course you would probably think these guys are ALL superstars. But believe it or not our league actually has many better players. Dwight Howard is definitely mediocre.

Artest Billups and Arenas are not better then the crop of the current olympique setup. Shaq is long way in his decline. Marion played in 2004 and wasnt good enough there to be called back. Same for Brand in 2006. Chris Paul is good, for the first time this season. The only guys in your list that I think would really improve your squad are Allen, Garnett and Pierce.

[thecarrotdude]

Originally Posted by Rikard T'Aranaxz Artest Billups and Arenas are not better then the crop of the current olympique setup.

not better than the crop, but definitely better than the crap

Originally Posted by Rikard T'Aranaxz The only guys in your list that I think would really improve your squad are Allen, Garnett and Pierce.

celtics fans are we?

but you're right, better to have a team that works well together than superstars that will fight for possession of the ball. if you used the celtics, or DEEETROIIT PISTONS, they would definitely win gold.