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Old 04-04-2001, 09:52 AM   #31
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Originally posted by Ramon de Ramon y Ramon:

Well, yes, I also live in a perfectly round house, so that nobody can sh#t in any corners !

Btw, Milord, maybe you can help me even further: I do want to extract the image of a certain creature (with background if that is possible !) from Bg II and then use it in my signature as an animated gif. So far I have only found out that Infinity Explorer won't do the job.

Thanks in advance !

LOL, well I'll see what I can do, but I'll need some more details, care to ellaborate?

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Old 04-04-2001, 09:54 AM   #32
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Uh, did I do that?

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Old 04-04-2001, 09:58 AM   #33
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Right on IdiotRogue, you are now "sigful"

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Old 04-04-2001, 10:01 AM   #34
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LOL, well I'll see what I can do, but I'll need some more details, care to ellaborate?


Thanks, but I would like to surprise the board a little and also like to learn how to do things like that myself. So if you could just give me some general instructions (which software to use, where to get it and such), I would be most thankful !

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Old 04-04-2001, 10:06 AM   #35
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Well I used Infinity explorer to get these, and then rebuilt them in Macromedia Fireworks, so as to force infinite looping etc. If you extract the gifs using Inf Expl then break them into individual frames using Fireworks, you can edit the pics in a paint package, e.g. Adobe Photoshop, and then recombine them in Fireworks. Hope this helps.

If you're doing what I think good luck, I have thought about doing something like that, but I haven't got the patience.

If you want me to have a go at getting what you want email me, and I'll give it a try. I can keep a secret, so the rest of the board will still be surprised.

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Old 04-04-2001, 10:30 AM   #36
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Being an absolute beginner at things like that, I have to say I feel a bit disheartened : What you described sounds a lot more complicated than I had hoped it to be. Are you saying one can use Infinty Explorer to extract images from saved games, because that would it take to include background,
wouldn't it ? But then again, you are right, for it to be animated I would have to extract many consecutive images ( that is basically what frames are, right ? You see, I am really still frighteningly ignorant at all of this. But I have played around a bit with Infinity Explorer) and join them back together again in a way and at a speed that would make it look "smooth". Maybe I will have to settle for either an animated gif out of the explorer without background or a standstill shot with background.

Macromedia Fireworks, I have to admit, I have never even heard of this program before ? Well, you probably did not think that my ignorance level was that
high !

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Old 04-04-2001, 10:36 AM   #37
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Being an absolute beginner at things like that, I have to say I feel a bit disheartened : What you described sounds a lot more complicated than I had hoped it to be. Are you saying one can use Infinty Explorer to extract images from saved games, because that would it take to include background,
wouldn't it ? But then again, you are right, for it to be animated I would have to extract many consecutive images ( that is basically what frames are, right ? You see, I am really still frighteningly ignorant at all of this. But I have played around a bit with Infinity Explorer) and join them back together again in a way and at a speed that would make it look "smooth". Maybe I will have to settle for either an animated gif out of the explorer without background or a standstill shot with background.

Macromedia Fireworks, I have to admit, I have never even heard of this program before ? Well, you probably did not think that my ignorance level was that
high !

Thanks !

Well I think I need to explain something about how gifs are extracted, they are taken from the data files of the games, not from a "saved game" therefore only the monsters and some NPCs can be extracted. The models for player characters are also available, but they are strange colours. They are painted with proper colours when the program runs. This allows characters to have their clothes/hair's etc colour changed.

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Old 04-04-2001, 10:54 AM   #38
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Well I think I need to explain something about how gifs are extracted, they are taken from the data files of the games, not from a "saved game" therefore only the monsters and some NPCs can be extracted. The models for player characters are also available, but they are strange colours. They are painted with proper colours when the program runs. This allows characters to have their clothes/hair's etc colour changed.


Thanks, that makes sense, it is more economical and also explains why the extracted gifs are without backgrounds. And yes, of course, the maps are rendered , thus static. Slowly, I think, I am getting to grasp some of the basics. So, to execute my plan, I would have to use an animated gif, set it up for an infinite looping and merge that somehow with a standstill background shot, those can be extracted from save games, I have seen that. But would that merger be possible technically, without using the game engine ?

Thanks for your help and patience !

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Old 04-04-2001, 11:26 AM   #39
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Don't see why no, extract a back ground and place you gif on it. It would work but you'd need some expertese to merge the to pictures well. You'd actually be placing each frame on the background as you character/monster moved, - just like building a TV cartoon.

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Old 04-05-2001, 06:34 AM   #40
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Man... that is a huge ammount of stuff!!
I ripped a few things out myself, but it looks like I didn't need to.
It sux a bit how you can't extract in game characters (ie. Gnome Illusionist), is there anyway of getting around this?

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