Just...bloody... brilliant....(rant)

[Winter Wolf]

How lovely. Someone in China has decided to enhance the internet experience by making it impossible to actually sign onto hotmail and some other sites which I happened to like.

I want to kick someone in the head for this. The sites aren't political, aren't controversial, and aren't "morally corrupting the populace". Just some idiot(s) with too much time on their hands and their head up their arse.

Clearly, bitching about it won't really change anything, or at least not in a good way, but it's been a long day at work and I was looking forward to a fix of humor. I'm actually pleasantly surprised that I managed to get onto IW. We'll see just how long that lasts. Definitely want to kick the responsible parties in the head.

[Larry_OHF]

Being locked out of IW due to regional location might be a reason to move to another locale, imo.

I hope you've not lost access to anything really important.

I wonder what their idea of "enhancing internet experience" really is...

[ZFR]

I guess they get blocked too, but can't you try using some anonymous surfing website?

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: Being locked out of IW due to regional location might be a reason to move to another locale, imo. I hope you've not lost access to anything really important. I wonder what their idea of "enhancing internet experience" really is...

It is scary isn't it? I have heard a little about this but don't understand it completely. Exactly what is censored now in China? I know Google searches etc. are, but why? Are they blocking people from browsing porn or something? What are they wanting to censor?

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: quote: Originally posted by Larry_OHF: Being locked out of IW due to regional location might be a reason to move to another locale, imo. I hope you've not lost access to anything really important. I wonder what their idea of "enhancing internet experience" really is...

It is scary isn't it? I have heard a little about this but don't understand it completely. Exactly what is censored now in China? I know Google searches etc. are, but why? Are they blocking people from browsing porn or something? What are they wanting to censor? [/QUOTE]Thoughts?

[Larry_OHF]

Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar: quote: Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: quote: Originally posted by Larry_OHF: Being locked out of IW due to regional location might be a reason to move to another locale, imo. I hope you've not lost access to anything really important. I wonder what their idea of "enhancing internet experience" really is...

It is scary isn't it? I have heard a little about this but don't understand it completely. Exactly what is censored now in China? I know Google searches etc. are, but why? Are they blocking people from browsing porn or something? What are they wanting to censor? [/QUOTE]Thoughts? [/QUOTE]I would agree, now that I think about it. Its probably a lot like Cuba, where the govt. can only win if they keep their people blinded in ignorance and away from ideas of a better life and independence. They're banned from using any tool that would lead them to websites that would teach them something useful. Ironworks is not yet banned because we are considered a gaming forum and not dangerous with innovative thought provoking.

At least, that is what comes to mind when trying to make an excuse up out of thin air, backed by testimonials from three different cuban friends.

Communism =

[ 03-22-2007, 04:08 PM: Message edited by: Larry_OHF ]

[PurpleXVI]

China is honestly not Communist, nor is Cuba. As long as there is an uneven distribution of resources, as long as there is a ruling class, it is not Communism. China is a Dictatorial Capitalist state, and Cuba is a Dictatorial Socialist state. You may as well state that Soviet Russia was Communist. Just because the "Glorious people's revolution!" is their excuse for staying in power, or whatever, it doesn't mean that they actually believe in it.

As for China's censorship, I would not recommend trying to circumvent it. Supposedly a lot of people have come to bad ends in: "Internet addiction centers," where most of the therapy is tantamount to torture, as a result of being caught at that. I'm not sure if it's worth being able to visit whatever site you want.

[Larry_OHF]

As of the 15th of March, 2007, the CIA still considers Mainland China as Communist.


However, I did find this article that supports your opinion. (You're welcome).

However, had you posted that, I would have pointed out that your information is from 1999, and given you this link to BBC World Service from 2006 where you can listen to a radio report from a journalist on the subject. Scroll down to this section and listen with Real Player. (Just over 2 minutes).

25th October 2006 - Capitalism vs Communism It is interesting to imagine what the founding fathers of Chinese Communism would make of the country today, given we have travelled to a province with a booming, some will say 'capitalist', economy. However, as George Arney discovers, Communism is still very much alive in China. Capitalism vs Communism

I also came across this site that details their constitution and clicking on another link on that page leads us to here where you can find supporting evidence that China still calls itself Communist. There are links there such as ones that take us to news reports like this:

The membership of the Communist Party of China (CPC) had grown to 70.8 million by the end of 2005, according to the latest statistics of the party.

It looks to me like the communist party is still very much alive.

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: quote: Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar: quote: Originally posted by SpiritWarrior: quote: Originally posted by Larry_OHF: Being locked out of IW due to regional location might be a reason to move to another locale, imo. I hope you've not lost access to anything really important. I wonder what their idea of "enhancing internet experience" really is...

It is scary isn't it? I have heard a little about this but don't understand it completely. Exactly what is censored now in China? I know Google searches etc. are, but why? Are they blocking people from browsing porn or something? What are they wanting to censor? [/QUOTE]Thoughts? [/QUOTE]I would agree, now that I think about it. Its probably a lot like Cuba, where the govt. can only win if they keep their people blinded in ignorance and away from ideas of a better life and independence. They're banned from using any tool that would lead them to websites that would teach them something useful. Ironworks is not yet banned because we are considered a gaming forum and not dangerous with innovative thought provoking.

At least, that is what comes to mind when trying to make an excuse up out of thin air, backed by testimonials from three different cuban friends.

Communism = [/QUOTE]What do you mean by something useful? Like what are they blocked from viewing and what is the government trying to keep from them?

[johnny]

Well, if the Chinese would have read a few of my posts, IW would have been outlawed years ago for the Chinese public. This is just another confirmation of my exellent stealthy "undermine the commie bastards" posting style. Sometimes it's scary how good i am.