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Old 09-30-2002, 03:37 PM   #1
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ive started creating some items for a mate of mine, and i came across 2 terms and i dont know what they mean.
1.Keen

2.Holy Avenger
Just wondering if anyone knows what they mean, as ive checked in the book and they are not mentioned.
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Old 09-30-2002, 03:53 PM   #2
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Keen: doubles the critical range of a weapon - so f.x. if a longsword that has a critical range of 19-20, then a keen longsword will make critical hits on 17-20.

IIRC Holy avenger is a longsword, but I haven't seen it yet myself.
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Old 09-30-2002, 03:58 PM   #3
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If a keen longsword would make criticals on 17-20, would a keen lonsword with impro criticals hit on 16-20?
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Old 09-30-2002, 04:09 PM   #4
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no - 15-20 [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-30-2002, 11:46 PM   #5
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IIRC, holy avenger is just a status of a weapon, usually sword, that gives it special abilities against evil. It also usually has fairly high base enchantment.
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Old 10-01-2002, 09:00 AM   #6
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wow cool guys! say I wonder, can the effects of Keen be stacked?
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Old 10-01-2002, 10:41 AM   #7
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no they can't, but if you have a weapon such as rapier, or scimitar with a critical range of 18-20, get imp critical, and keen your critical range is 12-20 (if you add sharpness, or vorpal... ouch) meaning a critical hit on 45% of all swings (provided they hit), with vorpal added everytime you get a critical the target loses it's head, unless immune to vorpal)

Holy Avengers are minor affects for weapons, unless you have at least 1 paladin level, in which case they act as a normal holy avenger from PnP (carsomyr from bg2 is a fair, but by no means erfect, example of a holy avenger as far as powers and abilities.
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Old 10-01-2002, 04:26 PM   #8
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otu of interest btw, if you have a Keen weapon and Improved Crit the effects stat but don't double.

For instance, longsword Threat Range 19-20
Imp Crit would make this 17-20
Keen would make it 17-20
Imp Crit AND Keen would make it 15-20, NOT 13-20
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