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Old 09-11-2006, 05:36 PM   #31
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If people expect this to be NWN, they will be sorely disappointed...it's not.

Keep and open mind and accept the game for what it is and not what it isn't. Unfortunately it seems this game is already doomed and it's not even been released.
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Old 09-11-2006, 06:36 PM   #32
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If people expect this to be NWN, they will be sorely disappointed...it's not.

Keep and open mind and accept the game for what it is and not what it isn't. Unfortunately it seems this game is already doomed and it's not even been released.
You are absolutely correct. It's supposed to be a sequel to Neverwinter Nights, and I'm not thinking that expecting it to have at least the base stuff that was included in the original is asking all that much. It's hard to be a sequel to something, if it's less that what was originally released.

In support of this, was BG 2 somehow less than BG? Did Throne of Bhaal take away from either? Maybe ToB isn't fair to add, since it was basically like TotSC, and an add on, but the point is still valid. The DM Client, and online multiplayer were the main drives behind Neverwinter Nights, with the exception of Hordes. I've been following this pretty close, and while they may be close to ironing out the problems, it's supposed to go Gold in a week? They will no longer have funding for support? You're correct. I believe that it's going to be substantially less than what it could be, and less than what Neverwinter Nights has become.
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Old 09-11-2006, 10:15 PM   #33
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Come on fellas, be positive. I'm actually looking forward to this game. I reckon it'll be good. Given how PC games can get made or broken by word of mouth, it's in their interest to not ship a game that's TOEEesque. Remember the furore about LucasArts and KOTOR2? That kind of negativity from the early adopters kind of killed the game off. Atari and Obsidian won't make the same mistakes again.
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Old 09-11-2006, 10:51 PM   #34
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See? NWN2 is going to suck so bad, it'll actually create more business for NWN1! [img]smile.gif[/img]

The player models in NWN2 look like lame ass Poser 2 models. Stupid, and odd looking.

I will stick with NWN1 thank you. [img]smile.gif[/img] I WILL try out NWN2--but only after ALL reviews come out. I promise you nearly all reviews will tank this beast.
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Old 09-12-2006, 01:53 PM   #35
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I never put it past Atari to make the same mistakes twice, or thrice. Not much of a fan of the company at this point.
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:42 PM   #36
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If people expect this to be NWN, they will be sorely disappointed...it's not.

Keep and open mind and accept the game for what it is and not what it isn't. Unfortunately it seems this game is already doomed and it's not even been released.
You are absolutely correct. It's supposed to be a sequel to Neverwinter Nights, and I'm not thinking that expecting it to have at least the base stuff that was included in the original is asking all that much. It's hard to be a sequel to something, if it's less that what was originally released.

In support of this, was BG 2 somehow less than BG? Did Throne of Bhaal take away from either? Maybe ToB isn't fair to add, since it was basically like TotSC, and an add on, but the point is still valid. The DM Client, and online multiplayer were the main drives behind Neverwinter Nights, with the exception of Hordes. I've been following this pretty close, and while they may be close to ironing out the problems, it's supposed to go Gold in a week? They will no longer have funding for support? You're correct. I believe that it's going to be substantially less than what it could be, and less than what Neverwinter Nights has become.
[/QUOTE]I think the whole sequel debate has been flogged to death (a few times) in GD. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It's pretty clear at this point that it's not going to be the sequel everyone wants, i.e. multiplayer. It's a disappointment, but it is what it is.

I for one am looking forward to NWN 2, fully realizing that it is not going to be the equivalent of NWN. Baring a Pool of Radiance (UbiSoft version) fiasco, I'll check out the reviews, make an informed decision and buy it for what it is...a single player game.
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Old 09-12-2006, 10:47 PM   #37
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The player models in NWN2 look like lame ass Poser 2 models. Stupid, and odd looking.
I don't care how much you dislike the game.

I don't care how much the game is probably going to suck.


That is complete BS. You know it. I know it. There is not a PC game ON THIS PLANET whose models are that fugly.
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Old 09-14-2006, 12:34 AM   #38
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If people expect this to be NWN, they will be sorely disappointed...it's not.

Keep and open mind and accept the game for what it is and not what it isn't. Unfortunately it seems this game is already doomed and it's not even been released.
You are absolutely correct. It's supposed to be a sequel to Neverwinter Nights, and I'm not thinking that expecting it to have at least the base stuff that was included in the original is asking all that much. It's hard to be a sequel to something, if it's less that what was originally released.

In support of this, was BG 2 somehow less than BG? Did Throne of Bhaal take away from either? Maybe ToB isn't fair to add, since it was basically like TotSC, and an add on, but the point is still valid. The DM Client, and online multiplayer were the main drives behind Neverwinter Nights, with the exception of Hordes. I've been following this pretty close, and while they may be close to ironing out the problems, it's supposed to go Gold in a week? They will no longer have funding for support? You're correct. I believe that it's going to be substantially less than what it could be, and less than what Neverwinter Nights has become.
[/QUOTE]I think the whole sequel debate has been flogged to death (a few times) in GD. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It's pretty clear at this point that it's not going to be the sequel everyone wants, i.e. multiplayer. It's a disappointment, but it is what it is.

I for one am looking forward to NWN 2, fully realizing that it is not going to be the equivalent of NWN. Baring a Pool of Radiance (UbiSoft version) fiasco, I'll check out the reviews, make an informed decision and buy it for what it is...a single player game.
[/QUOTE]It's looking like, unless they release an almost perfect Single Player campaign, it's not going to be the game anyone was looking for. I'm in the wait for the actual player reviews column, but the news is looking worse and worse all the time, and I've been waiting for this, for multiplay, for a long time. It's going to be whatever it is, I just hope it doesn't fall flat on it's face right out of the gate, which is possible, I suppose. If nothing else, if it does bite the big one, it will make a nice unopened box for my game collection, once I can get it out of the bargain bin at EB Games...
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Old 09-14-2006, 02:09 AM   #39
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After KOTORII I fully trust them to make a decent RPG with a good storyline.

That's what was lacking in NWN anyway.
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Shouldn't the above post have /sarcasm tags.

IMO They bombed KOTOR II with its incomplete storyline and many game breaking bugs.
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