So what does the patch fix anyway?

[Bungleau]

Following on bsftcs's excellent suggestion, let's clarify what the patch actually does. Once the discussion here is considered complete, we'll move it to the Best Tips thread.

Here are my thoughts:

1. Cleared up a crash when trying to exit Shurugeon Castle

2. Prevents the "pass the quest item" cheat by forcing you to listen to quest-givers and award-givers. Also a plus, since you *will* get credit for any quests you complete. Cases have been noted where people didn't listen to the quest-giver completely, and never got their rewards.

3. Prevents the Inn gold-sharing cheat.

4. [edited] Allows you to increase the game's base illumination, as documented on Page 3 of the Best Tips thread.

5. [edited] Removes the Jathil quest multi-reward bug, along with the Grue Morde quest multi-reward bug. Does not remove the Leprechaun multi-reward quest bug, nor does it remove the Open Shrine multi-reward quest bug.

Others?

[ 04-10-2003, 11:23 PM: Message edited by: Bungleau ]

[Olli Kalma]

Not sure of this, ( I don't have patched game ) but ain't it remove
Thorin's Dragon arrow problem?
That thorin won't accept arrows if his packback is full?
Only way is to buy something from thorin, but I've notice that only that works in unpatched game is stealing. His pack didn't empty, even I bought all of his stuff...

And that toad problem.
That toad standing in tunnels, blocking way from you?

Are these fixed bugs?

[WillowIX]

Originally posted by Sazerac: On whether or not to install the patch....consider this first! What you gain from the patch: [*]It fixes the "Crazy Dance" bug when you go to pick up an item[*]It fixes the "Inn" bug to where items stored on characters in the Inn won't randomly disappear[*]It fixes crashing when using thrown items such as knives, throwing axes, miners bombs, etc.[*]It fixes the Vampire Ring bug to where you can now equip the Vampire Ring without crashing to the desktop[*]It allows you to adjust the lighting in the dungeons when in D3D mode. This feature will NOT work in software mode.[*]The Colanth's Eye will no longer disappear if you leave the area in the Dragonspire quest.[*]The Scabban quest now correctly identifies you having completed the quest if you meet Scabban outside of his "lab"[*]You are required to physically visit the Toad Village quest (i.e., ENTER Toad Village) to receive credit for the Warrior's Guild quest.[*]Allegedly, it was supposed to fix the "toad stuck in tunnel" phenomenon. Many people running the patch still claim this exists, though.[*]Kerah's Elevator in the Shrine of Anephas no longer is disabled once you leave the area, so you can visit the hidden shrine multiple times.[*]The teleport bug in the Pyramid of Cet is fixed (allegedly) so you can re-enter and exit the pyramid after the Endgame.[*]The Spirit Shield trait now works appropriately.[/list] What the patch REMOVES from the game (what you lose): [*]The ability to use the "Infinite Gold Bug" feature of the Inn (to get large amounts of gold at the beginning of the game)[*]The ability to use the "Toughen" cheat outside of a city gate to permanently increase a character's HP[*]The ability to get multiple credits for a quest by clicking on and off a character's portrait rapidly while the questgiver is acknowledging the quest[*]The ability to get credit for, and still keep, very useful quest items in the game by trading them to another character while the questgiver was still talking. Examples here are: ARDIBREN'S KEEPSAKE, ASSASSIN'S DAGGER, MONK'S WARD, NO-DACHI OF THE STONE, BAND OF BOARS, STONE OF CLOVER[*]As above, the ability to get multiple assassins or zenmasters by trading the requisite quest object (ASSASSIN'S DAGGER or TOMES OF CREATION) to another character while being offered the new role.[/list] So, based on this, it's up to you whether or not you wish to patch the program. -Sazerac

Saz´s post in the best tips thread. Are there any additions? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Radek]

The Toad Village quest. I have found that you must jump down to the village in the plain vanilla W&W. Speaking with Ekbu does not suffice. On the other hand, jumping down is enough - you can climb out of the village immediately and go for your reward. Therefore, what is meant by entering the village in the patch? Are you wanted to speak with Shinwiki?

[Wyvern]

Originally posted by Radek: The Toad Village quest. I have found that you must jump down to the village in the plain vanilla W&W. Speaking with Ekbu does not suffice. On the other hand, jumping down is enough - you can climb out of the village immediately and go for your reward. Therefore, what is meant by entering the village in the patch? Are you wanted to speak with Shinwiki?

For the Warrior's Quest - "Entering the Toad Village" does mean jumping down that ladder. That area above the ladder does not count as part of the village. You don't need to talk to Shinwiki to fulfill the quest.

Wyv

[bsftcs]

Does the patch also alter the sequence in which the unlock aegis quest and the tree seed are given by Sebastio, so that one does not have to tree surf to get to the bark horrors?

[pritchke]

The worst thing about the patch is it fixes things that I usually don't want fixed like being able to obtain extra hit points and gold.

[Bungleau]

It does not correct the sequence of Sebastio's quests. You still have to get creative to get the seed.

[bsftcs]

I think your list is ripe for being posted at the best tips thread, Bungleau. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[Bungleau]

Done [img]graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

The list is on page 8 of Best Tips.