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Old 09-30-2003, 10:43 AM   #11
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it is theirright to do so, and although i never even used one of them what they were distributing is illegal
Huh? What's illegal about online chat. People that use it might be doing illegal things, but not all. There are plenty of chat rooms that I use where there's nothing illegal going on, just us talking about gaming or about something we all have in common.
There's nothing illegal about the service MS was providing, so I guess I don't understand your comment.
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Old 09-30-2003, 12:04 PM   #12
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I believe part of the reason MS shut it down was economic. The main issue was unsupervised chat rooms... so the fix is to supervise them. Now, how to do that in a practical way, ensuring that the people who are supervising are in fact bona-fide people worthy of a moderator title... and volunteer if at all possible, so you don't incur costs.

'Cause, let's face it, with today's litigious society, if MS were to put something like that in place, the first time someone broke through the safeguards it's lawsuit time...

Reminds me of something I read recently (perhaps yesterday, perhaps in Dear Abby)... a woman noticed a young boy waiting at his school bus stop unsupervised for several consecutive mornings. She finally went up and gave him a note to give to his parents, reading...

"While I'm not a pervert, I did get close enough to your son to give him this note. The next time you might not be so lucky."

The boyo was not left alone at the bus stop after that.

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Old 09-30-2003, 12:09 PM   #13
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it is theirright to do so, and although i never even used one of them what they were distributing is illegal
Huh? What's illegal about online chat. People that use it might be doing illegal things, but not all. There are plenty of chat rooms that I use where there's nothing illegal going on, just us talking about gaming or about something we all have in common.
There's nothing illegal about the service MS was providing, so I guess I don't understand your comment.
[/QUOTE]what I meant was that the stuff the users were distributing was illegal (like the pedophile material or sexual images)


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Old 09-30-2003, 01:12 PM   #14
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And yet as Bungleau said this can't be the reason. Any company who is making money really does not care about child-molesters and pedophiles (look at yahoo chat). And what about the American rooms? They can't house potential pedophiles or have people with explicit material? Course they can, it's all about the money and they're trying to go out with a good face on for some reason.

I would believe it if they took down all their chat rooms but they're not doing that.

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Might I just point out that the news broadcast I saw this in was possibly the most biased piece of reporting I've ever seen. The news reader could barely contain her approval for the scheme and remarked to the person she was interviewing about it: "This is quite obviously the right move, isn't it.", or words to that effect (it was a few days ago - I think that was what she said but I can't remember it word for word).
I agree 100% and I saw these newscasts too. It's sickening isn't it. They may aswell say "This is probably the best thing to do to avoid war".

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Old 09-30-2003, 01:45 PM   #15
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So the predators and prey alike will gravitate over to yahoo chat or one of the many other free chat services along with the porn spammers. It's not like the end of chatrooms, spammers, and internet predators is suddenly gonna come from this decision. *rollseyes*

I love it when a corporation makes an obvious business decision and tries to diguise it as a great humanitarian endeavor.
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Old 09-30-2003, 01:57 PM   #16
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I love it when a corporation makes an obvious business decision and tries to diguise it as a great humanitarian endeavor.
You said it, buddy.
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Old 09-30-2003, 05:38 PM   #17
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I love it when a corporation makes an obvious business decision and tries to diguise it as a great humanitarian endeavor.

Well, that pretty much sums up Microsoft, doesn't it?
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Old 10-01-2003, 09:15 AM   #18
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Sorry i left somthing out they will keep the supervised room for people who pay a subscription.
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