Social customs such as tipping etc.

The Hierophant · 03-09-2003, 08:48 AM

Howdy.
Well, I'm setting off on holiday in a couple of days and am wondering if there are any foreign social customs I should be aware of in order to avoid causing offence whilst travelling in the USA and Europe.
Now, I'm aware of the customary tipping in the United States (it still seems like a wierd idea. Why not just pay your workers better wages instead of expecting customers to foot the bill?), but I'm wondering as to what the standard 'tip' would be. It's some sort of percentage of what you pay in your bill right? 10% or something? I dunno. I hear you're even sometimes expected to tip someone just for opening a door for you. Heh. Over here in New Zealand we learn how to open our own doors! But that's besides the point. I'll play by the rules while I'm on someone elses turf

Also, I hear that in many places throughout Europe there are people specifically employed to charge people wishing to 'use the facilities' so to speak in restaurants and cafes etc. Again, nothing like that here in NZ, so what is the customary 'fee' for relief? A relative of mine was on holiday in Belgium and walked right past the old lady that was taking the 'toilet fee'. Needless to say, once they were 'done' in there they were accosted by the aggravated old lady upon leaving the toilet room. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Are there any other seemingly-mundane-yet-painfully-unfamiliar-to-foreigners stuff that I should know about (particularly relating to Britain, the USA, Italy and France, those are my confirmed holiday destinations)? I guess finding this stuff out on my own is half the fun, but I'd like to be armed with at least a rudimentary knowledge of local customs before I go travelling to the other side of the globe.

Any help would be much appreciated.
Cheers. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Charlie · 03-09-2003, 09:02 AM

When in England you must buy beer for Charlie.....it's customary.

The Hierophant · 03-09-2003, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Charlie:
When in England you must buy beer for Charlie.....it's customary.

Well, I'll be staying in London for quite a while so I may be able to deliver on that one. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Stratos · 03-09-2003, 09:26 AM

Depends on where you are staying, a luxurious hotel is different than a youth hostel. Only really classy places has a guy opening the restroom door for you and I think that you are supposed to tip him. Otherwise the fee is usually written somewhere close to where you do your needs, or there is a cranky old lady in a booth charging you for your visit.

I have also heard that 10% is a safe tip, more if you really liked the food and want to congratulate the chef for his astounding skills and a meal well done.

[ 03-09-2003, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Irongrinder · 03-09-2003, 09:31 AM

In Holland there are a lot of things where you have to pay to use the toilet (not in most of the restaurants, but in public places). If you go to a nightclub, most of the times the security expects you to tip them when you leave the building. I can't think of many more things right now, it's still early for me

johnny · 03-09-2003, 09:33 AM

In Italian restaurants is customary to belch and fart as loud as possible while eating. You'll be hailed like a king when you do that.

Stratos · 03-09-2003, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Irongrinder:
In Holland there are a lot of things where you have to pay to use the toilet (not in most of the restaurants, but in public places). If you go to a nightclub, most of the times the security expects you to tip them when you leave the building. I can't think of many more things right now, it's still early for me

And if you don´t tip...
Besides we also have pay-per-**** toilets [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[ 03-09-2003, 09:48 AM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Mojo · 03-09-2003, 09:51 AM

Tipping should be your own choice. People shouldn't expect to get tipped, that's just ridiculous if you think about it...the whole point of a tip is kinda like a reward for excellent service, no?

johnny · 03-09-2003, 09:58 AM

Well, i know of a few nightclubs, where if you don't tip the doorman, things can get nasty. Really.

Irongrinder · 03-09-2003, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
Well, i know of a few nightclubs, where if you don't tip the doorman, things can get nasty. Really.

Sad, but true

03-09-2003, 08:48 AM	#1
The Hierophant Thoth - Egyptian God of Wisdom Join Date: May 10, 2002 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand. Age: 42 Posts: 2,860	Howdy. Well, I'm setting off on holiday in a couple of days and am wondering if there are any foreign social customs I should be aware of in order to avoid causing offence whilst travelling in the USA and Europe. Now, I'm aware of the customary tipping in the United States (it still seems like a wierd idea. Why not just pay your workers better wages instead of expecting customers to foot the bill?), but I'm wondering as to what the standard 'tip' would be. It's some sort of percentage of what you pay in your bill right? 10% or something? I dunno. I hear you're even sometimes expected to tip someone just for opening a door for you. Heh. Over here in New Zealand we learn how to open our own doors! But that's besides the point. I'll play by the rules while I'm on someone elses turf Also, I hear that in many places throughout Europe there are people specifically employed to charge people wishing to 'use the facilities' so to speak in restaurants and cafes etc. Again, nothing like that here in NZ, so what is the customary 'fee' for relief? A relative of mine was on holiday in Belgium and walked right past the old lady that was taking the 'toilet fee'. Needless to say, once they were 'done' in there they were accosted by the aggravated old lady upon leaving the toilet room. [img]tongue.gif[/img] Are there any other seemingly-mundane-yet-painfully-unfamiliar-to-foreigners stuff that I should know about (particularly relating to Britain, the USA, Italy and France, those are my confirmed holiday destinations)? I guess finding this stuff out on my own is half the fun, but I'd like to be armed with at least a rudimentary knowledge of local customs before I go travelling to the other side of the globe. Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"hosted/Hierophant.jpg\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Strewth!

03-09-2003, 09:02 AM	#2
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03-09-2003, 09:26 AM	#4
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 43 Posts: 3,888	Depends on where you are staying, a luxurious hotel is different than a youth hostel. Only really classy places has a guy opening the restroom door for you and I think that you are supposed to tip him. Otherwise the fee is usually written somewhere close to where you do your needs, or there is a cranky old lady in a booth charging you for your visit. I have also heard that 10% is a safe tip, more if you really liked the food and want to congratulate the chef for his astounding skills and a meal well done. [ 03-09-2003, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Stratos ] __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

03-09-2003, 09:33 AM	#6
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03-09-2003, 09:51 AM	#8
Mojo Elminster Join Date: July 17, 2002 Location: Aberdeenshire, Scotland, UK Age: 37 Posts: 451	Tipping should be your own choice. People shouldn't expect to get tipped, that's just ridiculous if you think about it...the whole point of a tip is kinda like a reward for excellent service, no? __________________ Say No to Cosmetics Control! And the Trouser Tyranny!<br /><br />Like Final Fantasy? -[url]\"http://forums.ragnarokextreme.net\" target=\"_blank\">Ragnarok Extreme Forums</a>!!

03-09-2003, 09:31 AM	#5
Irongrinder Avatar Join Date: June 8, 2001 Location: The forest Posts: 526	In Holland there are a lot of things where you have to pay to use the toilet (not in most of the restaurants, but in public places). If you go to a nightclub, most of the times the security expects you to tip them when you leave the building. I can't think of many more things right now, it's still early for me

03-09-2003, 09:58 AM	#9
johnny 40th Level Warrior Join Date: April 15, 2002 Location: Utrecht The Netherlands Age: 58 Posts: 16,981	Well, i know of a few nightclubs, where if you don't tip the doorman, things can get nasty. Really. __________________

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