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* Penn & Teller's Bullshit, Season 2, episode 6. ** I don't necessarily imply that I agree with all of John F. Burns's calculations and conclusions (even though Saddam was a cruel dictator either way, period), just that this is one of the more extreme death counts I was able to find. [ 06-26-2004, 04:14 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ] |
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Once again, my point is wht can they use images of Hitler in their video, but cry foul when it was used by a Democrat on MoveOn.org? It's part of a pattern of hypocrisy.
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Jimmy Carter comes to mind as being the president with the singular worst record while in office in modern times. During his term the economy was truely aweful with double digit inflation, double digit unemployment, our military was cut and training was ignored to the point were the US could not even fly it's helicopters in dusty areas without having them crash....Economicly and Militarily he failed big time, he was unable to do anything about the Hostages in IRAN (and please do not bring up all those conspiracy theories about Reagan arranging that before he became president) Lyndon Johnson was not great success either he was one of the direct causes of the mess the US Military was in in Vietnam, I think the two of them are without a doubt the two true failures while in office. As matters of opinion on philosophical matters I think President CLinton was a bad president...Nuclear secrets being sold, Missile tech being sold to china and a complete failure to realize the significant threat terrorists posed for the nation....however he did manage some good things while in office...he didn't stop the GOP on their Welfare reform and also supported most of the GOP's contract with America...or at least didn't oppose it..and basicly took a hands off approach to the economy...so its hard to evaluate his goodness or badness as a president...(and really you need to wait 10 or 12 years for some things to come out to make a really informed decision as there are ALWAYS secrets involved that the press and public do NOT know about). For winning the War and getting us out of the Depression Roosevelt was a good president...however he got us into a really bad situation we face now with too many people thinking welfare is a way of life...and HE is directly responsible for the Soviets posing as greast a threat to the world as they did since Against the advice of his security advisors he put Soviet Spies into positions of power in the government and allowed them access to our biggest military and technology secrets....the press used to really lambaste anyone brought this information up, but in 1990's secret government documents were released that proved beyond a doubt that those people were in FACT soviet spies...and Roosevelt had been told as much....so was he a good or bad president? I would say for building the Soviets into what they were by allowing Spies into the government....I think that makes him guilty of a serious crime.....so anyway....as for presidents before World War II...there were many bad ones..but I don't have my history notes handy to delve into to relate the hows and whys. [/QUOTE] |
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Look, I don't *care* about debating abortion; I don't think I ever *really* debated it with someone in my entire life. I don't *care* about the tiresome and circular semantic nitpicking as to in what status the foetus is considered to be alive or not (I think that entire discussion is retarded to begin with, hence the remark). I may be pro-choice by default because I'm of the opinion that every person has to decide for themselves whether they think having an abortion is a moral thing to do or not, depending on the circumstances; but I'm not the kind of person to force my views on this particular matter onto others. The remark was a playful, lighthearted joke. Nothing less, nothing more. [ 06-26-2004, 01:29 PM: Message edited by: Grojlach ] |
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