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Ron Paul is more interesting in his speeches, and at least they've been consistent for over 20 years. Lamestream media keeps treating him as "lame" or "crazy," and that moniker pervades society, but I always find him inspiring, even when I disagree with him. |
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That is, again, why I wish we had more choices re presidents during election time. Millions of smart minds in America, who probably can fix things, but I suppose if they are unknown and do not have the money and backing, they never get there. A shame. |
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09-09-2011, 09:56 PM | #64 |
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I also never decide who to vote for until the end, when they have the debates between the set-in candidates. Everything before that is just blabla to me and just slogans and hype, saying what people want to hear but never really explaining how exactly they are going to do it.
I miss Ross Pero (spelling probably wrong). He seemed to know what he was talking about, but unfortunately sounded a bit crazy and his possible VP fell asleep too much on live TV if I recall LOL. But he was very entertaining and made one want to watch politcal speeches and debates more than any other year (except for when Obama came along) |
09-09-2011, 10:23 PM | #65 |
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Check this out, Felix (and others) -- noting that it's a bit dated:
http://www.crowell.com/documents/fun...-briefings.pdf Notably, after the recent NYC and LA (remember the "Carmageddon?") projects to fix some big thru-highway problems (also, byline credit to Boston's "Big Dig", but I still can't find I-95 going North out of the city), the most silliest and dangerous traffic blockage in the nation is the interstate interchange 4 blocks from my house. And, with 1 million more cars hitting the roadway in Chicago over the next 10 years, it only promises to get worse. Falling bridges are worse, but even our stupid Gummint realizes the roadway clogs are a significant dent on our economy -- which is much of the reason why open-road tolling has been invented and implemented (somewhat). Don't get me wrong: open road tolling is tons better than what used to be, but it's only the tip of the iceberg. The doc I linked estimates about 1.5 T needed in infrastructure fixes, but I'd say the real number is closer to $2T. That's a lot of shovel-ready jobs begging to be done. It's employment, it's people with money to fuel economic recovery. In short, it's a start, and it's the kind of start that got us out of the Great Depression. Say what you will about FDR and his fallacies, but Hoover before him failed to address recession appropriately, and it was much the same we see as now. I'm with Warren Buffet in the basic notion we have to tax the rich more -- they've enjoyed 20+ years of incredibly low taxes, and trickle-down has not occurred. But, steadying the tax structure is not enough; we have to get government buying into the basic market externalities again -- such as roads, which any economic scholar knows is the textbook definition of a market externality. If we can't get people in office who will get this stuff done, there's really not much hope. We have to spend on the basic shit, scrap the BS, lower taxes on the barely-existent middle class, raise them a bit on the rich, and get back to working like a business and not like Nepotism-opoly. Last edited by Timber Loftis; 09-09-2011 at 10:28 PM. |
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But... and this is important... ■■■■ the teabaggers, they're not real conservatives, and they're not Ron Paul. They're establishment Repug shills. SORRY TO FISK YOU LADY Z, but you had some interesting comments I wanted to chime in on. Last edited by Timber Loftis; 09-09-2011 at 11:07 PM. |
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I have said before that if the government were going to spend hundreds of billions of dollars they might as well spend it on something that needs the attention like the infrastructure. I have also been a Ron Paul supporter for several years--he really is the best choice.
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BTW TL, I also agree on all points with your last few posts.
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Timber, I do not mind you fisking me (although I am unfamiliar with that term, but I think I get it). I consider myself your ordinary citizen who does not keep up on politics that much, so am ignorant re a lot of the intracies and semantics involved. My posts were my honest thoughts, and probably the same thoughts for many people like me. I actually appreciate your replies and insight re the subject, as I again rarely add anything to political threads since I do not feel knowledgeable enough to add anything insightful, just my opinions on how see things on my end. I will definitely keep my ears open to any new candidates, although I tend to not decide until the end when they televise the final debates. Those I do watch because to me it kind of summarizes everyone's agenda in a nutshell.
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