USA/Cuba - wossat all about then?

[Redblueflare]

Originally posted by Moni: ROFL! You know when I was typing that out, I was wondering if he ever would! Wondering now if it is just a guy in a Castro mask, wearing it to fool the nations, and all the while the U.S. is there just to secretly collect cheap cigars with which to supply the oval office.

Nope Castro is 74, and quite ill right now. (Cuba is trying to keep that hush-hush.) Don't think things are going to get any better when he dies, as his younger brother is even worse than he is.

Now for explaining why we're here. Yeah Cuba has been a thorn in the side of the U.S. for awhile. (Bay of Pigs invasion, Cuban Missile Crisis etc.) That doesn't have much to do with it. Gtmo, (Guantonomo bay Cuba our naval base.) is remote, and a perfect place for some bombing target practice. You're at the open ocean, you're not destroying anything, (All the reefs are not closer to shore.) so why not place some targets on the water? The base will be expanding for this reason, more than 3000 people are expected to come here next year.

Oh and one last thing. How do I know all this? Besides the fact that I live here. There is a person from Puerto Rico who works with the Seabees. (The Cubans who come to the base to work. The pay is crap in Cuba, so a few come here.) He's seen the targets being set up, and for some reason beyond my civilian knowledge, knows a lot about what's going on.

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just don't have to listen.

Originally posted by Redblueflare: Nope Castro is 74, and quite ill right now. (Cuba is trying to keep that hush-hush.) Don't think things are going to get any better when he dies, as his younger brother is even worse than he is. Now for explaining why we're here. Yeah Cuba has been a thorn in the side of the U.S. for awhile. (Bay of Pigs invasion, Cuban Missile Crisis etc.) That doesn't have much to do with it. Gtmo, (Guantonomo bay Cuba our naval base.) is remote, and a perfect place for some bombing target practice. You're at the open ocean, you're not destroying anything, (All the reefs are not closer to shore.) so why not place some targets on the water? The base will be expanding for this reason, more than 3000 people are expected to come here next year. Oh and one last thing. How do I know all this? Besides the fact that I live here. There is a person from Puerto Rico who works with the Seabees. (The Cubans who come to the base to work. The pay is crap in Cuba, so a few come here.) He's seen the targets being set up, and for some reason beyond my civilian knowledge, knows a lot about what's going on.

Thanks



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[Billikins the Bold]

Originally posted by Redblueflare: Oh and one last thing. How do I know all this? Besides the fact that I live here. There is a person from Puerto Rico who works with the Seabees. (The Cubans who come to the base to work. The pay is crap in Cuba, so a few come here.) He's seen the targets being set up, and for some reason beyond my civilian knowledge, knows a lot about what's going on.

Odd that a Peurto Rican should know so much about US forces practice targets

Now I don't want to come across as anti-US, but the US govt does have a bit of a reputation as a poor loser. You only have to look att South East Asia to see that. Post 1975 Vietnam was deliberatley isolated to punish it for the termerity to throw off the reign of US sponsored military dictatorships in the South for USSR sponsored communist government (how dare they !?!).

In fact they were isolated to the point that when the Vietnamese decided to overthrow the genocidal regime of Pol Pot, the US started to support the Khmer Rogue against the Vietnamese! Don't forget that these were the people who'd killed over an eigth of the total population and had a deliberate policy to put country back into the stone age.
As a Brit I can't exactly be proud of this either cos Thatcher, bless her "special relationship" heart saw fit to send the SAS to train the Khmer Rogue in mine and booby trap laying.

Ah, geopolitics, love it or hate they'll still, er, mess up your life!

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[This message has been edited by Billikins the Bold (edited 08-17-2001) cos otherwise my spelling was lamentable .]

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[Redblueflare]

Originally posted by Moni: Thanks

No problem. Everybody was wondering what's going on. So I let you guys know.


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[Redblueflare]

Originally posted by Billikins the Bold: Odd that a Peurto Rican should know so much about US forces practice targets Ah, geopolitics, love it or hate they'll still, er, mess up your life!

Not to odd, considering the fact that he *is* in the military himself. My own fault for not saying that. I don't know how high up he is or anything, but thought i'd clear that up.
I hate geopolitics! Can't we all just get along? Is that so much to ask?



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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just don't have to listen.

[Jerome]

Originally posted by Redblueflare: [/b] I hate geopolitics! Can't we all just get along? Is that so much to ask? [/B]

Apparently: yes.

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[Billikins the Bold]

Originally posted by Redblueflare: Not to odd, considering the fact that he *is* in the military himself. My own fault for not saying that. I don't know how high up he is or anything, but thought i'd clear that up. I hate geopolitics! Can't we all just get along? Is that so much to ask?

My deepest apologies: I thought that was a reference to what was going on in Vieques.

And yep, you might be able to guess that I agree with on getting along! If people showed a little more respect for others and a little less pig headedness this world would a much better place.

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[Diogenes Of Pumpkintown]

Why Cuba and not China?

Because Cuba is a convenient and much easier whipping boy for the US than China. Making a "moral" point, using Bush's term, is much safer when not much is at stake. Raise the stakes, and morality is outweighed by other concerns like money or war with a powerful enemy.

[trux]

Strategic importance of a US base in Cuba? Why is there so much animosity towards Cuba in the US?

I believe it all stemmed from a little thing we like to call a NUCLEAR SHOWDOWN a few decades back, when everyone thought the world had come to its end. Such a thing I assume would make the political forces of the US (and indeed) the world a little nervous, a little unsettled and a little paranoid.

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a bunch of long hairs.
trux