For the conspiracy nuts

machinehead · 07-23-2009, 03:19 AM

I guess we really did get there after all.
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LR...ollosites.html

ElfBane · 07-23-2009, 05:14 AM

One of the first things, if not THE first thing, to be compromised in the digital age was photography. What makes you think these grainy black and white photos will convince the conspiracy dudes???

machinehead · 07-23-2009, 08:27 AM

There is more and better to come.

"Though it had been expected that LRO would be able to resolve the remnants of the Apollo mission, these first images came before the spacecraft reached its final mapping orbit. Future LROC images from these sites will have two to three times greater resolution."

Firestormalpha · 07-23-2009, 08:31 AM

I think what ElfBane is saying is that you could give a conspiracy nut a guided tour of the moon landing site and they'd still think it was a conspiracy.

SecretMaster · 07-23-2009, 08:36 PM

I don't understand how people still think we didn't land on the moon. What a bunch of twits. It's almost as bad as the people who believe September 11th was orchestrated by the U.S. Government. Damn these nutjobs.

Chewbacca · 07-23-2009, 09:43 PM

Reminds me of the video with, I think it was, Aldrin giving a knuckle-sandwich to a guy who got in his face about it.

wellard · 07-29-2009, 01:14 AM

Hey the conspiracy got busted by myth busters

can't argue with the mythbusters

Firestormalpha · 07-29-2009, 01:33 AM

Well, not busted per se. More discredited. They proved that the so called "issues" with the video/photo's could have occurred in conditions that would be encountered on the moon ( the double shadow from one light source, and the clearly visible astronaut despite the completely dark shadows around him) In the same action they proved that it "could" have been hoaxed, but not for the reason's they were testing against.

I don't think it was a hoax. If it was a hoax, it was hideously expensive to pull off, and I'm not sure what if any returns they could have gotten out of it.

Raistlin Majere · 07-29-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SecretMaster

I don't understand how people still think we didn't land on the moon. What a bunch of twits. It's almost as bad as the people who believe September 11th was orchestrated by the U.S. Government. Damn these nutjobs.

Now first of all, I'm not saying I believe there to be some grand scheme and conspiracy behind 9/11 and the Apollo flights, but I can definately see the logic behind the theories. It all boils down to politics, and we all know no government is without its flaws..I believe Churchill said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others we've tried". Democracy, being a "power to the people" type of government would thus have to come up with elaborate plans to get what THEY want(the politicians are humans as well, and thus most likely driving issues they want to see happen), leaving "the people" none the wiser.

There's plenty of flaws in the conspiracy theories I'm sure, but it is entertaining to think about, when there are such seemingly obvious motives.

Chewbacca · 07-30-2009, 12:36 AM

The flaw behind the conspiracy theory's logic is that actually going to the moon was the result of political will. This is obvious when considering the history of the space program. Politicians made all resources available. The halls of NASA were filled with people determined to go to the moon. We made it so.

Also as an act of propaganda, faking such a huge event this would be much too risky for what amounts to intangible reward. The hoax being revealed was not an if, it's a when as we now know.

07-23-2009, 03:19 AM	#1
machinehead Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: April 9, 2001 Location: Massachusetts Age: 68 Posts: 630	For the conspiracy nuts I guess we really did get there after all. http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LR...ollosites.html

07-23-2009, 05:14 AM	#2
ElfBane Mephistopheles Join Date: March 21, 2004 Location: Cape Canaveral, FL Age: 69 Posts: 1,443	Re: For the conspiracy nuts One of the first things, if not THE first thing, to be compromised in the digital age was photography. What makes you think these grainy black and white photos will convince the conspiracy dudes??? __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706 - 1790), Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759. Iraq and Afghan fatalities: 6,855 and counting. Silence IS consent. Last edited by ElfBane; 07-23-2009 at 09:21 PM.

07-23-2009, 08:27 AM	#3
machinehead Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: April 9, 2001 Location: Massachusetts Age: 68 Posts: 630	Re: For the conspiracy nuts There is more and better to come. "Though it had been expected that LRO would be able to resolve the remnants of the Apollo mission, these first images came before the spacecraft reached its final mapping orbit. Future LROC images from these sites will have two to three times greater resolution."

07-23-2009, 08:31 AM	#4
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 40 Posts: 4,454	Re: For the conspiracy nuts I think what ElfBane is saying is that you could give a conspiracy nut a guided tour of the moon landing site and they'd still think it was a conspiracy. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

07-23-2009, 08:36 PM	#5
SecretMaster Apophis Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: New York Age: 37 Posts: 4,666	Re: For the conspiracy nuts I don't understand how people still think we didn't land on the moon. What a bunch of twits. It's almost as bad as the people who believe September 11th was orchestrated by the U.S. Government. Damn these nutjobs.

07-23-2009, 09:43 PM	#6
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 50 Posts: 5,373	Re: For the conspiracy nuts Reminds me of the video with, I think it was, Aldrin giving a knuckle-sandwich to a guy who got in his face about it. __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?

07-29-2009, 01:14 AM	#7
wellard Dracolisk Join Date: November 1, 2002 Location: Australia ..... G\'day! Posts: 6,123	Re: For the conspiracy nuts Hey the conspiracy got busted by myth busters can't argue with the mythbusters __________________ fossils - natures way of laughing at creationists for over 3 billion years

07-29-2009, 01:33 AM	#8
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 40 Posts: 4,454	Re: For the conspiracy nuts Well, not busted per se. More discredited. They proved that the so called "issues" with the video/photo's could have occurred in conditions that would be encountered on the moon ( the double shadow from one light source, and the clearly visible astronaut despite the completely dark shadows around him) In the same action they proved that it "could" have been hoaxed, but not for the reason's they were testing against. I don't think it was a hoax. If it was a hoax, it was hideously expensive to pull off, and I'm not sure what if any returns they could have gotten out of it. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

07-30-2009, 12:36 AM	#10
Chewbacca Zartan Join Date: July 18, 2001 Location: America, On The Beautiful Earth Age: 50 Posts: 5,373	Re: For the conspiracy nuts The flaw behind the conspiracy theory's logic is that actually going to the moon was the result of political will. This is obvious when considering the history of the space program. Politicians made all resources available. The halls of NASA were filled with people determined to go to the moon. We made it so. Also as an act of propaganda, faking such a huge event this would be much too risky for what amounts to intangible reward. The hoax being revealed was not an if, it's a when as we now know. __________________ Support Local Music and Record Stores! Got Liberty?

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