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Old 07-05-2004, 02:27 PM   #11
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Yes, the Radeon 9600pro or 9600XT are good cards, but they don't handle Open GL as well as nVidia cards do. Rumour has it, that a future driver release for ATI will fix the Open GL problem.

Having said that, I use a 9800XT and am quite impressed with it. Quite frankly, picture quality is a lot better than my old Geforce card, and I have yet to find any games that I can't play with all details maxed out, including 8X AA, and 16X AF.

I don't do much with the FPS myself, but do enjoy NWN, KOTOR, Flight Sim 2004, etc...

To be honest, if your card is working great for the games you play today, hold off until it can't. Any card you buy today, will be outdated tommorrow.
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Old 07-05-2004, 08:00 PM   #12

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I'll echo the statement about NWN being finicky with ATI cards. I let a friend borrow my copy of NWN and it wouldn't run. I tinkered around a bit in the BIOS and got it running. Worked ok for about a month then it just quit working again.

I will say though I am impressed by the ATI 9800Pro. It's older, but pretty sweet nevertheless. I just put on in my parents computer and ran Morrowind with full settings (16x+ani+trueform) and it was smoking along nicely. Makes me jealous. [img]smile.gif[/img] Luckily I got my old GF4 T4200 working nicely now though. I just don't understand laying down $500 for a gfx board.
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Old 07-05-2004, 09:46 PM   #13
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Originally posted by Sir Krustin:
If you want to play ANY of the newer games, eg Far Cry, then you NEED a newer card.

Incidentally, don't knock the FX series cards too much, the 5200 (a low-end card if ever there was one) is fully capable of running Far Cry with most detail levels at medium (and water effects at full) and still get good framerates (40fps+) on a low-end machine.

If you want all the eyecandy, you'll need an X800 or a GF6800 but even on medium, the look of this game is spectacular.
thats right! im on student budget so i got the fx5200. thank goodness it can run the newer games at a decent fashion.

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Old 07-06-2004, 08:47 AM   #14
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So what's the difference between ATI and Nvidia?

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Old 07-06-2004, 08:56 AM   #15

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I would recommend the Radeon 9800Pro, its about £130, which (if I converted properly on is around $330 (your in AUD right?). Although you could get it cheaper on ebay.
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Old 07-06-2004, 10:12 AM   #16

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I've been very happy with my FX 5700 Ultra, although I would avoid any FX other than the 5700 or 5950... they had "issues" that were mostly overcome in these two newer cards. My card is a single slot unit that had a decent sized fan/heat sink but it still took only one slot (I've got it liquid cooled now so there's no fan at all).

Performance has been good, overclockability ok. I can run Far Cry at 1280x1024 with everything at maximum except shadows (which I think they've got an engine problem with, good performance outdoors, but go in a cave and the frame rates drop to unplayable levels).
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Old 07-06-2004, 10:14 AM   #17
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I have my FX 5600. And I am happy with it. Now am looking for speakers...

Mem, the diff? Competition. Both has its ups and downs. ATI being the fastest yet (with the same level of cards) somehow not as compatible in other progs as nVidia... I think
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Old 07-06-2004, 06:10 PM   #18

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ge force is shit !

get ati radeon cards !
Old 07-06-2004, 07:10 PM   #19
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Originally posted by Karathis:
ge force is shit !

get ati radeon cards !
Thank you for your highly intellegent opinion.
I am sure alot of people will be converted by your testimonial.
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Old 07-06-2004, 07:10 PM   #20

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Well that was intelligent. He's probably just jealous for being stuck with a Diamon Stealth 3D 2MB board from about 1996.
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