Weapon Proficiencies?

Katherine · 01-15-2002, 02:46 AM

I have a question or three about how this system works...

If I have a fighter class character who begins with:
large sword: **
bow: **

and I get to a level-up where a new proficiency star is avialable, why can I not add it to, say, bow? I am always forced to add it to a completely new weapon class. Why is that? Is there some system that prohibits the character from getting too many stars in a certain weapon too early? I've never quite understood how this works... Why would my character get a proficiency in blunt weapons, for example, when all she ever used was a sword and a bow?

Does anyone know how this works?

thanks,

JR Jansen · 01-15-2002, 07:58 AM

Hmm, weird. Are you sure you are playing a fighter and not a paladin or ranger ? The last two can only get two proficiencies in any one weapon. Also a mutliclassed fighter can only get as much proficiencies in a weapon as his second class can get. For example a multiclass fighter/cleric would only be able to put one star in a weapon.

J'aran · 01-15-2002, 09:01 AM

No, multiclass Fighters can get two stars in any weapon-group, regardless of their other class. A pure Fighter should be able to get more though. I second JR's question, are you sure your character is a single-class Fighter and not a multiclass Fighter, a Paladin or a Ranger?

Lavindathar · 01-15-2002, 01:27 PM

I third it, and say that you have to have made a mistake and be either a ranger or paladin.

Elendil · 01-15-2002, 01:33 PM

Fighters : Advanced Weapon Specialisation (5 stars)
Ranger&Paladin : Weapon Specialisation (2 stars)

So you have made a mistake...

Katherine · 01-15-2002, 06:37 PM

I see. My character is multi-class. I didn't know about the restriction. This leads to another question:
What are the class restrictions? I dont' see a table in the rule book for this.

Katherine

Micah Foehammer · 01-15-2002, 07:37 PM

Class restrictions as per weapon use?
This could take some time :

For single class characters:
Fighters can use any weapon and have up to five stars
Paladins can use any weapon and have up to two stars
Clerics can use only blunt weapons and slings and only get one star
Druids are restricted to scimitars, clubs, spears, slings, quarterstaff, dagger, dart and also only get one star
Mages can use daggers, darts, quarterstaff and sling .. one star
Thieves can use daggers, clubs, quarterstaff, long sword, short sword, darts, short bow and sling .. one star

(I may have missed a few on this ...)

For dual class or multi-class it gets more complicated. In general, and dual/multi class combo involving a cleric is restricted to the clerical weapons

There are also armor restrictions for druids and mages.

Katherine · 01-16-2002, 04:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Micah Foehammer:
Class restrictions as per weapon use?
This could take some time :

For single class characters:
Fighters can use any weapon and have up to five stars
Paladins can use any weapon and have up to two stars
Clerics can use only blunt weapons and slings and only get one star
Druids are restricted to scimitars, clubs, spears, slings, quarterstaff, dagger, dart and also only get one star
Mages can use daggers, darts, quarterstaff and sling .. one star
Thieves can use daggers, clubs, quarterstaff, long sword, short sword, darts, short bow and sling .. one star

Thanks. I knew about the armour and weapon restriction, but never knew how the stars worked. I had a multi-class fighter and was thinking it was a bug that she never got more than 2 stars in her weapon profs. Now, I understand better. Thanks.

Katherine

Micah Foehammer · 01-16-2002, 04:14 PM

You're welcome. Some of this changes with the new kits that are available in BG2, but at least for TotSC its right. [img]smile.gif[/img]

01-15-2002, 02:46 AM	#1
Katherine Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: perdition Posts: 340	I have a question or three about how this system works... If I have a fighter class character who begins with: large sword: bow: and I get to a level-up where a new proficiency star is avialable, why can I not add it to, say, bow? I am always forced to add it to a completely new weapon class. Why is that? Is there some system that prohibits the character from getting too many stars in a certain weapon too early? I've never quite understood how this works... Why would my character get a proficiency in blunt weapons, for example, when all she ever used was a sword and a bow? Does anyone know how this works? thanks, __________________ <i>The road to hell is paved with delicious intentions.</i><br /><br />Unholy Acorn Gatherer in the <b>Profane Order of the Hyper-Wrathful, All-Powerful Squirrel Goddess</b>

01-15-2002, 07:58 AM	#2
JR Jansen Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: May 31, 2001 Location: Mol (Belgium) Posts: 658	Hmm, weird. Are you sure you are playing a fighter and not a paladin or ranger ? The last two can only get two proficiencies in any one weapon. Also a mutliclassed fighter can only get as much proficiencies in a weapon as his second class can get. For example a multiclass fighter/cleric would only be able to put one star in a weapon. __________________ JR<p>Damned i lost cousin Jan\'s techno gloves<p>Forest runner and first gnomish demiranger-protector with slightly rougueish tendencies and a natural dislike for Aerie

01-15-2002, 01:27 PM	#4
Lavindathar Harper Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Lancs, England Age: 39 Posts: 4,729	I third it, and say that you have to have made a mistake and be either a ranger or paladin. __________________ =@

01-15-2002, 01:33 PM	#5
Elendil Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 13, 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 28	Fighters : Advanced Weapon Specialisation (5 stars) Ranger&Paladin : Weapon Specialisation (2 stars) So you have made a mistake... __________________ Elendil - the lethal elven archer<p>- It is too late to escape if you hear his arrows whistling on air. -

01-15-2002, 07:37 PM	#7
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	Class restrictions as per weapon use? This could take some time : For single class characters: Fighters can use any weapon and have up to five stars Paladins can use any weapon and have up to two stars Clerics can use only blunt weapons and slings and only get one star Druids are restricted to scimitars, clubs, spears, slings, quarterstaff, dagger, dart and also only get one star Mages can use daggers, darts, quarterstaff and sling .. one star Thieves can use daggers, clubs, quarterstaff, long sword, short sword, darts, short bow and sling .. one star (I may have missed a few on this ...) For dual class or multi-class it gets more complicated. In general, and dual/multi class combo involving a cleric is restricted to the clerical weapons There are also armor restrictions for druids and mages. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

01-15-2002, 09:01 AM	#3
J'aran Mephistopheles Join Date: December 12, 2001 Location: Fryslân, The Netherlands Age: 44 Posts: 1,493	No, multiclass Fighters can get two stars in any weapon-group, regardless of their other class. A pure Fighter should be able to get more though. I second JR's question, are you sure your character is a single-class Fighter and not a multiclass Fighter, a Paladin or a Ranger?

01-15-2002, 06:37 PM	#6
Katherine Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: perdition Posts: 340	I see. My character is multi-class. I didn't know about the restriction. This leads to another question: What are the class restrictions? I dont' see a table in the rule book for this. Katherine

01-16-2002, 04:12 PM	#8
Katherine Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 11, 2001 Location: perdition Posts: 340	quote: Originally posted by Micah Foehammer: Class restrictions as per weapon use? This could take some time : For single class characters: Fighters can use any weapon and have up to five stars Paladins can use any weapon and have up to two stars Clerics can use only blunt weapons and slings and only get one star Druids are restricted to scimitars, clubs, spears, slings, quarterstaff, dagger, dart and also only get one star Mages can use daggers, darts, quarterstaff and sling .. one star Thieves can use daggers, clubs, quarterstaff, long sword, short sword, darts, short bow and sling .. one star Thanks. I knew about the armour and weapon restriction, but never knew how the stars worked. I had a multi-class fighter and was thinking it was a bug that she never got more than 2 stars in her weapon profs. Now, I understand better. Thanks. Katherine

01-16-2002, 04:14 PM	#9
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	You're welcome. Some of this changes with the new kits that are available in BG2, but at least for TotSC its right. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

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