I really need some help with this math! - Page 2

Dundee Slaytern · 01-23-2002, 03:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Vaskez:
Hehe, I hope Dreamer never has to do some of the things I'm doing now....Laplace transforms, Sturm-Liouville Systems, Fourier Series, Bode plots and Nyquist Diagrams, Root Locus plots aghhh!

I do... ...

Vaskez · 01-23-2002, 07:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:

I do... ...

You do what? Hope Dreamer has to do them? Or you do do them at school? I doubt it's the latter since this is degree-level material.

Scholarcs- I'm on a Computer Engineering Degree.....some of that stuff is part of the Engineering Maths subject and some of them part of the Control Systems Engineering...main thing is any engineering course involves a bitch-load of maths....if you are good at maths you will have a great advantage in them.

Barry the Sprout · 01-23-2002, 07:26 AM

I'm assuming you do mechanical maths though Vaskez. I do Economics so the Maths I do is pretty stats based. Therefore - a lot easier. I could never understand Mechanics at the best of times, as for degree level... good luck!

But I still recognised most of the stuff in that list. Is some of that in the A level Further Maths syllabus? I am assuming you did Further Maths as otherwise Engineering is just plain suicidal.

Vaskez · 01-23-2002, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Barry the Sprout:
I'm assuming you do mechanical maths though Vaskez. I do Economics so the Maths I do is pretty stats based. Therefore - a lot easier. I could never understand Mechanics at the best of times, as for degree level... good luck!

But I still recognised most of the stuff in that list. Is some of that in the A level Further Maths syllabus? I am assuming you did Further Maths as otherwise Engineering is just plain suicidal.

Hmm I did Pure Maths, which is advanced maths without the mechanics part at A level. So it's in between normal Maths A level and Further Maths and we didn't cover any of the things on that list, althoug much of the stuff I did in the first year was revision for me...the 2nd year is mostly new stuff. You're right, it IS suicidal, I'm killing myself learning all this stuff....root locus, nyquist etc...that was in an exam which I've just finished...didn't go too badly thanks for asking

the Laplace etc. will be in Engineering maths exam next Tuesday....I think I've got a pretty good grasp of it....

Redblueflare · 01-23-2002, 01:39 PM

Oh someone already figured it out. You know i'm extremely jealous of all you math geniuses! Math just doesn't come easy for me. At least non easy stuff like the quadratic formula...

Everone is entitled to their own opinion, I just don't have to listen.

[ 01-23-2002: Message edited by: Redblueflare ]

Talthyr Malkaviel · 01-23-2002, 01:45 PM

I hope you didn't mean that anyone is doing simultaneous equations for A-level, cos I thought that was normally taught much earlier.

Barry the Sprout · 01-23-2002, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by Talthyr Malkaviel:
I hope you didn't mean that anyone is doing simultaneous equations for A-level, cos I thought that was normally taught much earlier.

Yep I know. We were referring to the really big ones with lots variables. The ones that require knowledge of Matrices and the like to even begin to understand how to work out. I wouldn't have a clue if I tried one now but I used to have to do them a lot. And god was it painful...

Mirac Honorguard · 01-23-2002, 04:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Vaskez:

Hehe, I hope Dreamer never has to do some of the things I'm doing now....Laplace transforms, Sturm-Liouville Systems, Fourier Series, Bode plots and Nyquist Diagrams, Root Locus plots aghhh!

Laplace, fourier, bode..done those..pretty hard though. You ever did Eurler?

Vaskez · 01-23-2002, 04:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mirac Honorguard:

Laplace, fourier, bode..done those..pretty hard though. You ever did Eurler?

LMAO no offense, but just from that message it doesn't sound like you've done those. For a start Laplace is in fact very easy because you just use a bit of partial fractions then apply standard formulae....it's Euler anyway

I haven't "done" Euler, but I've used his formula

Vaskez · 01-23-2002, 04:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Redblueflare:
Oh someone already figured it out. You know i'm extremely jealous of all you math geniuses! Math just doesn't come easy for me. At least non easy stuff like the quadratic formula...

LOL I've got bad news for you mate. You really should be able to apply the quadratic formula in any situation (find complex roots, poles, zeros for transfer functions) in your sleep. It's one of the most important equations ever.

01-23-2002, 03:15 AM	#11
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Vaskez: Hehe, I hope Dreamer never has to do some of the things I'm doing now....Laplace transforms, Sturm-Liouville Systems, Fourier Series, Bode plots and Nyquist Diagrams, Root Locus plots aghhh! I do... ...

01-23-2002, 07:05 AM	#12
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	quote: Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: I do... ... You do what? Hope Dreamer has to do them? Or you do do them at school? I doubt it's the latter since this is degree-level material. Scholarcs- I'm on a Computer Engineering Degree.....some of that stuff is part of the Engineering Maths subject and some of them part of the Control Systems Engineering...main thing is any engineering course involves a bitch-load of maths....if you are good at maths you will have a great advantage in them. __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray

01-23-2002, 07:26 AM	#13
Barry the Sprout White Dragon Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: York, UK. Age: 41 Posts: 1,815	I'm assuming you do mechanical maths though Vaskez. I do Economics so the Maths I do is pretty stats based. Therefore - a lot easier. I could never understand Mechanics at the best of times, as for degree level... good luck! But I still recognised most of the stuff in that list. Is some of that in the A level Further Maths syllabus? I am assuming you did Further Maths as otherwise Engineering is just plain suicidal. __________________ [img]\"http://img1.ranchoweb.com/images/sproutman/certwist.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br /><i>\"And the angels all pallid and wan,<br />Uprising, unveiling, affirm,<br />That the play is the tragedy, man,<br />And its hero the Conquerer Worm.\"</i><br /> - Edgar Allan Poe

01-23-2002, 07:45 AM	#14
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	quote: Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: I'm assuming you do mechanical maths though Vaskez. I do Economics so the Maths I do is pretty stats based. Therefore - a lot easier. I could never understand Mechanics at the best of times, as for degree level... good luck! But I still recognised most of the stuff in that list. Is some of that in the A level Further Maths syllabus? I am assuming you did Further Maths as otherwise Engineering is just plain suicidal. Hmm I did Pure Maths, which is advanced maths without the mechanics part at A level. So it's in between normal Maths A level and Further Maths and we didn't cover any of the things on that list, althoug much of the stuff I did in the first year was revision for me...the 2nd year is mostly new stuff. You're right, it IS suicidal, I'm killing myself learning all this stuff....root locus, nyquist etc...that was in an exam which I've just finished...didn't go too badly thanks for asking the Laplace etc. will be in Engineering maths exam next Tuesday....I think I've got a pretty good grasp of it.... __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray

01-23-2002, 01:45 PM	#16
Talthyr Malkaviel Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: August 31, 2001 Location: Land of the Britons Age: 37 Posts: 3,224	I hope you didn't mean that anyone is doing simultaneous equations for A-level, cos I thought that was normally taught much earlier. __________________ Resident cantankerous sorcerer of the Clan HADB<br />and Sorcerous Nuttella salesman of the O.R.T<br /> <br /><br />Say NO to the Trouser Tyranny! Can I drill you about this?

01-23-2002, 01:39 PM	#15
Redblueflare Galvatron Join Date: May 9, 2001 Location: The backwoods in Georgia sigh Age: 39 Posts: 2,151	Oh someone already figured it out. You know i'm extremely jealous of all you math geniuses! Math just doesn't come easy for me. At least non easy stuff like the quadratic formula... Everone is entitled to their own opinion, I just don't have to listen. [ 01-23-2002: Message edited by: Redblueflare ]

01-23-2002, 02:13 PM	#17
Barry the Sprout White Dragon Join Date: October 19, 2001 Location: York, UK. Age: 41 Posts: 1,815	quote: Originally posted by Talthyr Malkaviel: I hope you didn't mean that anyone is doing simultaneous equations for A-level, cos I thought that was normally taught much earlier. Yep I know. We were referring to the really big ones with lots variables. The ones that require knowledge of Matrices and the like to even begin to understand how to work out. I wouldn't have a clue if I tried one now but I used to have to do them a lot. And god was it painful... __________________ [img]\"http://img1.ranchoweb.com/images/sproutman/certwist.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br /><i>\"And the angels all pallid and wan,<br />Uprising, unveiling, affirm,<br />That the play is the tragedy, man,<br />And its hero the Conquerer Worm.\"</i><br /> - Edgar Allan Poe

01-23-2002, 04:05 PM	#18
Mirac Honorguard Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: August 21, 2001 Location: Limburg, Netherlands, Europe Age: 42 Posts: 894	quote: Originally posted by Vaskez: Hehe, I hope Dreamer never has to do some of the things I'm doing now....Laplace transforms, Sturm-Liouville Systems, Fourier Series, Bode plots and Nyquist Diagrams, Root Locus plots aghhh! Laplace, fourier, bode..done those..pretty hard though. You ever did Eurler? __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[worship]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/worship.gif\" /> TES IV : Oblivion<br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[worship]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/worship.gif\" /> Vanguard : Saga of Heroes

01-23-2002, 04:34 PM	#19
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	quote: Originally posted by Mirac Honorguard: Laplace, fourier, bode..done those..pretty hard though. You ever did Eurler? LMAO no offense, but just from that message it doesn't sound like you've done those. For a start Laplace is in fact very easy because you just use a bit of partial fractions then apply standard formulae....it's Euler anyway I haven't "done" Euler, but I've used his formula __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray

01-23-2002, 04:47 PM	#20
Vaskez Takhisis Follower Join Date: April 30, 2001 Location: szép Magyarország (well not right now) Posts: 5,089	quote: Originally posted by Redblueflare: Oh someone already figured it out. You know i'm extremely jealous of all you math geniuses! Math just doesn't come easy for me. At least non easy stuff like the quadratic formula... LOL I've got bad news for you mate. You really should be able to apply the quadratic formula in any situation (find complex roots, poles, zeros for transfer functions) in your sleep. It's one of the most important equations ever. __________________ Too set in his ways to ever relate If he could set that aside, there'd be heaven to pay But weathered and aged, time swept him to grave Love conquers all? Damn, I'd say that area's gray

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