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Old 04-03-2001, 08:42 AM   #11
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No not one of valar though he is...ehh...what the name...anyway his not a vala

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Old 04-03-2001, 09:18 AM   #12
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Actually, I believe Gandalf was supposed to be one of the Maiar, which would make him more analogous to an angel in Tolkien's universe. Unless I'm mistaken, the Valar would have been the elves that lived across the sea in Valinor; the Ainar would have been the demi-gods or higher tier of angels, and the Maiar like Sauron would have been the lower Tier. Eru, also called Iluvatar, was the highest god, who created everyone else. Tolkien included a lot of religious themes and undercurrents in LotR.
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Old 04-03-2001, 12:46 PM   #13
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don't be daft Harkle Harpel would have em both. AT THE SAME TIME lol j/k

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Old 04-03-2001, 01:31 PM   #14
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this is a post by Sivar at planetbg.com forum, a discussion about Elminster's power


Elminster has no stats above 25 because he is from 2nd edition, in which stats max out at 25.
He has 25 con, a gift from his good friend Mystra, the godess of magic. He is a very high level fighter and is a very high level in another class as well, though I cannot remember what it is. His third class is the only class that he really uses, mage. I believe he is level 27 in that area.

Elminster could easily kill anything. Besides the fact that he is a genius and would know precisely how to best use his insane array of spells, many of which he invented and probably including "Win battle" and "kill enemy, period"... He is also invincible. No, his character sheet, if such a thing exists, would not say so.. You see, yes he is friends with several gods and other powerful beings that would come to his aide, but also when WoTC purchased TSR, part of the agreement was that Elminster could never be defeated or die.
Thus, he is invincible at a level even higher than the DM... Wizards of the Coast! I believe that the same agreement was made when they were purchased by Hasbro, but I am unsure.
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Old 04-03-2001, 01:53 PM   #15
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Galdalf from the Hobbit
well he WAS younger then

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Old 04-03-2001, 01:54 PM   #16
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I would have kill the both.Ha HA HA ah arg aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Old 04-03-2001, 02:02 PM   #17
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I would have kill the both.Ha HA HA ah arg aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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Old 04-03-2001, 02:03 PM   #18
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In years to come Rikard will be haveing tea and bickies with Elminster

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Nope, it didn't work(again), 250.
I guess you don't need me telling you this every time.

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Frodo Baggins would kill both of them..........


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