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Old 04-02-2001, 11:42 AM   #81
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Hi Ramon,

You can talk about strangely spelt place names, COL-OG-KNEE!

My father actually spent some time in Koln (whats the code for an umlaut?), but he always claims he ended up learning German with a regional dialect. Is it true that Koln has a strong accent?

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Old 04-02-2001, 11:59 AM   #82
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Hesperex, where is Great Britain ?

Just tried to find the country of Great Britain on the map. Don't exist. Personally I detest with a passion being referred to as British, I also hate seeing blue in the English football teams strip when there's none in our national flag and I despise seeing the Union flag representing ENGLAND at International events. Whilst people instantly recognise a Scot as a Scot or an Irishman as an Irishman it seems the English are too often referred to as British (as opposed to the Scot's etc being labelled British) and it seems to me that the English are fast losing their identity. Christ, the amount of English people that don't even know the date of our own patron Saints day is imho shameful. Anyway, gripe over

I'm an Englishman from England btw.


Point taken, but the reason I said Great Britain was because as you say England is not always recognised, particulary outside of Europe, I am English but I am also British. Britain is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It's is the name under which we carved our colonial Empire. Great Britain is a name to be proud of. But I am English and I am very proud to be so, and let no one forget which nation conquerd Scotland, Wales and Nothern Ireland. Obviously all this conquest talk could get me into a nasty argumant with people from the aformentioned nations, particularly Ireland. I am not advocating conquest I am simply saying it happend, and I am proud of the empire we once had under the flag of Great Britain. Unless you are a football, rugby or cricket supporter you are not likely to recognise the English flag if you are not from either England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland or France. The Australian flag has the British flag 'Union Jack' in the corner not the English flag. I know that a lot of Ausies are avid cricket, rugby fans so will no doubt know the English flag but how many Americans can honestly say they would recognise the English flag if they saw it? I know they would recognise the British flag but what about the English.?? or how many Germans would know it?


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Old 04-02-2001, 01:31 PM   #83
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Originally posted by Sir_Tainly:
Hi Ramon,


You can talk about strangely spelt place names, COL-OG-KNEE!


My father actually spent some time in Koln (whats the code for an umlaut?), but he always claims he ended up learning German with a regional dialect. Is it true that Koln has a strong accent?


Milord, sorry, I don't know the codes for Umlaute as I am using a German keyboard with own keys reserved for Umlaute, but on the "German" thread on the GD forum Cb asked the same question and the incomparable Archbabe Melusine answered and listed some codes/shortcuts. Another possibility is to load other keyboard configurations into Windows and switch to one of these when writing in another language. That is the way I do it whenever I write in Spanish/Catalan/French.

Yes, Cologne has its own regional dialect which is very distinct from official "High German" and in which the locals take much pride, but Western and Nothern German dialects generally tend not to carry over to High German as much as much the Southern ones like Bavarian. But Rhinish people, especially from Cologne, can still often be identified when speaking High German by a certain "melodic" way in their intonation or accentuation. It is called the "Rhinish singsang" - and it sure feels like home for me !


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Old 04-02-2001, 01:52 PM   #84
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Norway is the land of the Vikings! It was the Norwegian Vikings who discovered America, and when the Norwegian raid France and UK you guys was tumbeling around in Russia!!!
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Old 04-02-2001, 02:08 PM   #85
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Originally posted by Hesperex:

Unless you are a football, rugby or cricket supporter you are not likely to recognise the English flag if you are not from either England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland or France.
My point exactly, yet the flags of the other four countries are recognisable worldwide. The English flag is imho being lost and our countries name forgotten in favour of the Union name and the Union flag.

Hesperex, I wasn't after a particulars debate. The question was "which country are you from". Not "which Empire".

As is too often the case imho Englands name is ommited in favour of the Empire name.

No offence intended btw.


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Old 04-02-2001, 06:09 PM   #86
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My point exactly, yet the flags of the other four countries are recognisable worldwide. The English flag is imho being lost and our countries name forgotten in favour of the Union name and the Union flag.

Hesperex, I wasn't after a particulars debate. The question was "which country are you from". Not "which Empire".

As is too often the case imho Englands name is ommited in favour of the Empire name.

No offence intended btw.


Yes I agree with you.



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Old 04-02-2001, 06:18 PM   #87
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Point taken, but the reason I said Great Britain was because as you say England is not always recognised, particulary outside of Europe, I am English but I am also British. Britain is England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It's is the name under which we carved our colonial Empire. Great Britain is a name to be proud of. But I am English and I am very proud to be so, and let no one forget which nation conquerd Scotland, Wales and Nothern Ireland. Obviously all this conquest talk could get me into a nasty argumant with people from the aformentioned nations, particularly Ireland. I am not advocating conquest I am simply saying it happend, and I am proud of the empire we once had under the flag of Great Britain. Unless you are a football, rugby or cricket supporter you are not likely to recognise the English flag if you are not from either England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland or France. The Australian flag has the British flag 'Union Jack' in the corner not the English flag. I know that a lot of Ausies are avid cricket, rugby fans so will no doubt know the English flag but how many Americans can honestly say they would recognise the English flag if they saw it? I know they would recognise the British flag but what about the English.?? or how many Germans would know it?


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Some from different parts of Scotland, some from Northern Ireland, and others from Sheffield in England. British or Anglo-Celtic sums up my heritage.



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Old 04-02-2001, 07:38 PM   #88
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I'm from south east england or London. It's a nice place there as I'm sure most of you on this forum know since we have this nice visit once in a while.





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Old 04-02-2001, 08:10 PM   #89
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Well I'm originally from a place called Middle Earth,but I doupt anyone has ever heard of it! Anyway,there I was,sneekin' around in the depths below the Misty Mountains,when I stumbles on this portal.My curiosity got the better of me so through it I went and ended up here in this place the locals call England.Unfortunately,the portal was one-way,so now I'm stuck here without my precious!

On the bright side though,I began telling stories about my homeland to some old bloke with a pipe-who said he was a writer and wanted to publish my tales.Now I'm a bit of a celebrity,and with the royalties I'm gettin' off the book sales and the new movie adaptation,I'll soon have enough to forge me a new precious!

One good thing about this place though,no nasty stinkin' hobbits!

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