Tactics mod stupidity

[Bruce The Aussie]

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ok..did they mean to make bohdi unkillable when they made it? i mean..harder, yes, but making it so even with ctrl-y she can't die is idiocy....for some reason....i can stand there beating her down...and she never dies...i tried ctrl-y, she doesn't die, i step back, incase its a script thats supposed to activate, she kills me instantly. wonderful peice of scripting huh?

also, why did they give vampires insect swarm? its not exactly very character based now is it?.... theres only 1 way to block that spell i know of.., and u have to have a party of mages to stop it for your whole party....

[ 10-29-2003, 05:42 AM: Message edited by: Bruce The Aussie ]

[Bruce The Aussie]

and yes...i do feel better after saying all that...

[Userunfriendly]

urm...i can't remember if spell immunity conjuration will stop insect swarm...actually its a bat plague, just looks like insect swarm...

unkillable bodhi, sounds like she wasn't allowed her final dialog, so its locked...

just load up a spell sequencer with dispell magic, and use it when a party member is afflicted...

summon skeleton warriors, haste them, breach her...slice and dice...

[Bruce The Aussie]

well, i tried all that..and the skeleton idea is a big help...only 1 problem...dispell doesn't work on the bat thing...
also how is bohdi able to cast spells event when she's being beaten into a bloody pulp? it just doesn't make sense...

[Bruce The Aussie]

MWUAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!

cheese tactics rule..... i ended up summoning skeleton warroirs, a deva, and a couple of fire elementals (about 7 monsters in all, thank you project image [img]smile.gif[/img] ) and a wizard eye...so i could start beating her down before she saw me...

then i stopped time, and blew up all of the friends she summoned...then she died...
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[Raistlin Majere]

Originally posted by Bruce The Aussie: MWUAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!! cheese tactics rule..... i ended up summoning skeleton warroirs, a deva, and a couple of fire elementals (about 7 monsters in all, thank you project image [img]smile.gif[/img] ) and a wizard eye...so i could start beating her down before she saw me... then i stopped time, and blew up all of the friends she summoned...then she died... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Congrats, Bruce!!! [img]graemlins/awesomework.gif[/img] Thats what tactics is all about! Tactics!

[ 10-29-2003, 10:48 AM: Message edited by: Raistlin Majere ]

[weimer]

Originally posted by Bruce The Aussie: ok..did they mean to make bohdi unkillable when they made it?

If by "they" you mean "the original BG2 designers", then the answer is apparently "Yes". The original Bodhi will also fail to fall to Ctrl-Y, as will many other "bosses" in the game. Personally, I think that minhp1 items were a massive and fragile hack (as shown by the number of bug reports that crop up around them) and that a bit of reengineering in that area would have gone a long way (think fast: how many "bob is 'near death' and I can't advance the game?" bug reports have you seen?).

The Tactics mod does not actually change that behavior at all.

but making it so even with ctrl-y she can't die is idiocy....

I agree.

wonderful peice of scripting huh?

In both cases. I would actually say that the real fault lies with the engine and when it deigns to run the scripts, though.

also, why did they give vampires insect swarm?

Neither Bodhi nor Imp Bodhi has insect swarm. In this regard you may want to read the README or her dialogue or the combat text on the screen.

theres only 1 way to block that spell i know of

Spell Immunity and Pro-Magic work, but the most common tactic here is distance. You can usually arrange to have it afflict only one or two people -- perhaps summoned monsters only.

Since you've already bested Bodhi this isn't really relevant, but did you know that the tactics mod comes with hints on how to beat most of the baddies? Check out HINTS-Bodhi.txt for more examples.