Ground Zero mosque

[robertthebard]

Frankly, until they finish building the memorial to 9/11, they should refrain from building anything there. Yes, in this instance I am guilty of not reading the whole thread before posting, but I have an appointment with Section 8 Housing shortly, and am in a hurry. As I posted on another forum, however, the "bandaid" should be applied prior to any other major construction being done in the immediate vicinity. Allow the healing to begin first, then run with whatever.

[Jaradu]

Taliban officials know it’s sacrilegious to hope a mosque will not be built, but that’s exactly what they’re wishing for: the success of the fiery campaign to block the proposed Islamic cultural center and prayer room near the site of the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan. “By preventing this mosque from being built, America is doing us a big favor,” Taliban operative Zabihullah tells NEWSWEEK. (Like many Afghans, he uses a single name.) “It’s providing us with more recruits, donations, and popular support.”

http://www.newsweek.com/2010/08/30/t...o-recruit.html

[Timber Loftis]

“the face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. … Islam is peace. These terrorists don’t represent peace. They represent evil and war.”

[American Muslims] “need to be treated with respect. In our anger and emotion, our fellow Americans must treat each other with respect.”

-- George W. Bush

[Timber Loftis]

Originally Posted by robertthebard Frankly, until they finish building the memorial to 9/11, they should refrain from building anything there.

The contradiction to your point is that they are building that shit at a snail's pace, and if we have to wait on the memorial we might as well declare 9 blocks of NYC as a dead zone for the next 2 generations.

Yes, in this instance I am guilty of not reading the whole thread before posting, but

And you're uninformed.

As I posted on another forum

And I left there so why mention it.

[Firestormalpha]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis The contradiction to your point is that they are building that shit at a snail's pace, and if we have to wait on the memorial we might as well declare 9 blocks of NYC as a dead zone for the next 2 generations.

A better contradiction might be that the professed hope of the Imams in charge of building the cultural center/mosque(whatever) that the facility would aid in the healing by showing that not all Muslim's are out to kill people who believe differently than them. And that there can be peaceful, meaningful discourse between those of different and even contradictory beliefs.

P.S. just nitpicking on this, but Islam is not peace. Islam means submission. Salaam means peace. (and even those are probably less than 100% accurate)

[Timber Loftis]

Originally Posted by Firestormalpha P.S. just nitpicking on this, but Islam is not peace. Islam means submission. Salaam means peace. (and even those are probably less than 100% accurate)

Well in all fairness I was quoting GWB, someone who's barely literate and can't eat a pretzel without almost dying.

[Hindsight]

You know, I find it funny that Islam is supposed to be such a wondering, peaceful, loving religion; but have you ever noticed that most, or almost all major aid organizations are Christian? I just don't get the big allure, to switch to such a religion. (sorry, at little off topic, I know)

Obviously, more time is needed than 9 years, for these wounds to heal. I like the idea of the community centre and I would love to walk in there as a non-muslim to take advantage of the facility, but it just seems too soon for people.

[Timber Loftis]

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/vi...nter.kwtv.html

[Firestormalpha]

Umm.. what does a Satanic church gathering have to do with the ground zero mosque/civic center? or was it supposed to be the video after that you wanted us to see?

on a side note, I have a hard time taking a guy's claims that he's serious about his alleged beliefs when he's wearing a red latex demon mask.

[Timber Loftis]

Originally Posted by Firestormalpha Umm.. what does a Satanic church gathering have to do with the ground zero mosque/civic center? or was it supposed to be the video after that you wanted us to see? on a side note, I have a hard time taking a guy's claims that he's serious about his alleged beliefs when he's wearing a red latex demon mask.

As for the mask, he didn't want to be identified. So, no matter how you slice it he was going to look silly.

As for the relevance, it's the broader question of what is religious freedom, and what do we recognize as religion. This community seems to be a bit more enlightened to what the 1st Amendment protects, whereas the kerfuffle over the G.Z. mosque is just boiling over with stupid stupidity of stupidness and stupification.


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