Obama's latest jobs/opening campaign/scream foul to the media - speech - Page 6

SpiritWarrior · 10-01-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Timber Loftis

I thought this might bring levity to this big honking tax discussion.

Love it.

Cerek · 10-02-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Timber Loftis

I thought this might bring levity to this big honking tax discussion.

Ok...I give up. It's a neat poster, but I just don't get the punchline/message.

SpiritWarrior · 10-02-2011, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cerek

Ok...I give up. It's a neat poster, but I just don't get the punchline/message.

^_-

Firestormalpha · 10-02-2011, 02:24 PM

I'm gonna say the idea is to highlight all the 'niceties' that taxes pay for, making things safer for the protestors calling for zero, or reduced taxes.

Azred · 10-02-2011, 02:41 PM

I crunched the numbers on a different board and concluded that the average person complaining "the taxes are too high" really don't pay a heck of a lot in tax and that a small increase in the fundamental rate wouldn't raise the actual dollar amount they pay by much at all.

robertthebard · 10-03-2011, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerek

Ok...I give up. It's a neat poster, but I just don't get the punchline/message.

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Originally Posted by Firestormalpha

I'm gonna say the idea is to highlight all the 'niceties' that taxes pay for, making things safer for the protestors calling for zero, or reduced taxes.

That's the idea I came away with.

I would like to point out that while I'm laughing at the pic, and in agreement with the idea, phone lines and electric lines are not maintained by the government. I think they even stopped regulating them some time ago?

Azred · 10-03-2011, 11:03 AM

Phone and electric lines are owned and maintained by the service providers; they are only regulated by city, State, and/or Federal governments. This rules out "power for traffic light" and "electric lines" as being paid for by taxes. Every other item mentioned in the picture comes from local taxes, primarly property and sales tax revenue and the folks in the picture are, presumably, arguing against Federal taxes.

SpiritWarrior · 10-03-2011, 05:53 PM

But don't taxes pay for the power? Like, footing the electro bill for city traffic lights etc.

Azred · 10-03-2011, 06:38 PM

Yes, the city has to pay for the power it uses...which comes from local taxes, not Federal. I'm certain that some Federal money trickles into cities and they'll use some of it, but the vast majority of their budget comes from local taxes.

SpiritWarrior · 10-03-2011, 07:32 PM

Yeah, which we know from watching the local news that most cities do indeed use federal taxes as well as local. It's in the Caller Times every so often, but it seems like it's application-based.

But anyways, those signs don't say "No More Federal Taxes". Which if they did, that would be a totally different ballgame in my book. And if they do mean federal taxes only then why aren't they making that clear? My fave one is the "Cut Taxes Not Defense" one.

10-02-2011, 02:24 PM	#54
Firestormalpha Knight of the Rose Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Coral Springs, Fl USA Age: 40 Posts: 4,454	Re: Obama's latest jobs/opening campaign/scream foul to the media - speech I'm gonna say the idea is to highlight all the 'niceties' that taxes pay for, making things safer for the protestors calling for zero, or reduced taxes. __________________ "When you start with a presupposition, it's hard to arrive at any other conclusion." "We are never to judge a philosophy by its abuse." - Augustine "If you're wondering if God has a sense of humor, consider the platypus." http://www.greaterthings.cbglades.com

10-02-2011, 02:41 PM	#55
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	Re: Obama's latest jobs/opening campaign/scream foul to the media - speech I crunched the numbers on a different board and concluded that the average person complaining "the taxes are too high" really don't pay a heck of a lot in tax and that a small increase in the fundamental rate wouldn't raise the actual dollar amount they pay by much at all. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

10-03-2011, 11:03 AM	#57
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	Re: Obama's latest jobs/opening campaign/scream foul to the media - speech Phone and electric lines are owned and maintained by the service providers; they are only regulated by city, State, and/or Federal governments. This rules out "power for traffic light" and "electric lines" as being paid for by taxes. Every other item mentioned in the picture comes from local taxes, primarly property and sales tax revenue and the folks in the picture are, presumably, arguing against Federal taxes. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

10-03-2011, 05:53 PM	#58
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Re: Obama's latest jobs/opening campaign/scream foul to the media - speech But don't taxes pay for the power? Like, footing the electro bill for city traffic lights etc. __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

10-03-2011, 06:38 PM	#59
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 54 Posts: 4,037	Re: Obama's latest jobs/opening campaign/scream foul to the media - speech Yes, the city has to pay for the power it uses...which comes from local taxes, not Federal. I'm certain that some Federal money trickles into cities and they'll use some of it, but the vast majority of their budget comes from local taxes. __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

10-03-2011, 07:32 PM	#60
SpiritWarrior Jack Burton Join Date: May 31, 2002 Location: Ireland Posts: 5,854	Re: Obama's latest jobs/opening campaign/scream foul to the media - speech Yeah, which we know from watching the local news that most cities do indeed use federal taxes as well as local. It's in the Caller Times every so often, but it seems like it's application-based. But anyways, those signs don't say "No More Federal Taxes". Which if they did, that would be a totally different ballgame in my book. And if they do mean federal taxes only then why aren't they making that clear? My fave one is the "Cut Taxes Not Defense" one. __________________ Still I feel like a child when I look at the moon, maybe I grew up a little too soon...

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