Racism in BG??? (spoiler)

Sodomatic Goat · 11-11-2002, 08:29 AM

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OK, is this racism or what?? first I had Yoshimo (who is Asian) backstabbing me, then Anomen (who is black(halfkaste maybe)) left me and started acusing me for all sorts of stuff... is there any other......?????

DSlaytern] Just a minor word edit.

[ 11-11-2002, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

White Lancer · 11-11-2002, 08:34 AM

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Originally posted by Sodomatic Goat:
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OK, is this racism or what?? first I had Yoshimo (who is Asian) backstabbing me, then Anomen (who is black(halfkaste maybe)) left me and started acusing me for all sorts of stuff... is there any other......?????

Whoa back on the language there. Don't forget, this is a family site, there are going to be children/teens viewing this site. Read the ToS, i believe somehwere it states something to that effect. BTW, i don't think Anomen is black.

EDIT] Just noticed that you mentioned the problem with Yoshimo
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andrewas · 11-11-2002, 08:50 AM

Why is it racist that Yoshimo attacks you? If it was a caucasian character, it would be equally as racist, albeit in the opposite direction.

Thres a good quote from Pratchett that applies here, But I dont recall it precisely.

Sodomatic Goat · 11-11-2002, 09:15 AM

Anomen looks black to me... I just thought it was strange that the asian and black npc's in the game betrays you.... well sorry folks

9_1_6 · 11-11-2002, 09:27 AM

Anomen is not Black!!!
If you want black, Valygar is black.
Check Anomens Paperdoll, he aint black according to me!

Dundee Slaytern · 11-11-2002, 09:45 AM

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Yoshimo's story is one of tragedy. He did not backstabbed you out of freewill, but because Jon Irenicus( JI) placed a Geas on Yoshimo which basically meant that Yoshimo had to obey JI's every command or die.

His redemption comes about when you forgive him for his transgressions and send his heart to the appropriate temple( Ilmater if I recall correctly).

11-11-2002, 11:55 AM

Anomen is racist. He accused me of stealing his bling-bling [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Sodomatic Goat · 11-12-2002, 02:16 AM

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Yoshimo's story is one of tragedy. He did not backstabbed you out of freewill, but because Jon Irenicus( JI) placed a Geas on Yoshimo which basically meant that Yoshimo had to obey JI's every command or die.

His redemption comes about when you forgive him for his transgressions and send his heart to the appropriate temple( Ilmater if I recall correctly).

I never had the chance to kill or forgive him, why not??? he did betray me in the asylum, but never showed up in the game again...

Trau · 11-12-2002, 02:23 AM

Valygar has one of the coolest personalities of all the NPC characters, yet he is black. Of all the male NPCs I had in my pary, I always felt that my PC, as a paladin, got along the best with Valygar, because he's totally loyal, and he's totally honorable. That doesn't sound very racist to me. Look at Edwin: he's the most selfish, arrogant sumana gun you'd ever hope to have in your party, and he's white. Jon Irenicus, the worst of them all, is a white guy.

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Dundee Slaytern · 11-12-2002, 02:48 AM

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I never had the chance to kill or forgive him, why not??? he did betray me in the asylum, but never showed up in the game again...

If you recall, after you "defeat" JI with the help of the lunatics, JI sics several Thieves on you. Yoshimo will be one of them. This is only when you bring Yoshimo all the way.

11-11-2002, 08:29 AM	#1
Sodomatic Goat Manshoon Join Date: October 31, 2002 Location: Denmark Age: 45 Posts: 170	S P O I L E R OK, is this racism or what?? first I had Yoshimo (who is Asian) backstabbing me, then Anomen (who is black(halfkaste maybe)) left me and started acusing me for all sorts of stuff... is there any other......????? DSlaytern] Just a minor word edit. [ 11-11-2002, 12:00 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ] __________________ Never underestimate the power of the darkside...

11-11-2002, 08:50 AM	#3
andrewas Harper Join Date: October 2, 2001 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Age: 42 Posts: 4,774	Why is it racist that Yoshimo attacks you? If it was a caucasian character, it would be equally as racist, albeit in the opposite direction. Thres a good quote from Pratchett that applies here, But I dont recall it precisely. __________________ [img]\"http://www.sighost.us/members/Zvijer/andrewas.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

11-11-2002, 09:15 AM	#4
Sodomatic Goat Manshoon Join Date: October 31, 2002 Location: Denmark Age: 45 Posts: 170	Anomen looks black to me... I just thought it was strange that the asian and black npc's in the game betrays you.... well sorry folks __________________ Never underestimate the power of the darkside...

11-11-2002, 09:27 AM	#5
9_1_6 Elminster Join Date: November 2, 2002 Location: ♣♣♣ Age: 38 Posts: 457	Anomen is not Black!!! If you want black, Valygar is black. Check Anomens Paperdoll, he aint black according to me! __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dancing]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dancing.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dancing]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dancing.gif\" /> 9_1_6 <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dancing]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dancing.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dancing]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dancing.gif\" /> <br />LIQUID STICK PEOPLE!

11-12-2002, 02:23 AM	#9
Trau Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 10, 2002 Location: Martinez, California, United States of America Age: 39 Posts: 366	Valygar has one of the coolest personalities of all the NPC characters, yet he is black. Of all the male NPCs I had in my pary, I always felt that my PC, as a paladin, got along the best with Valygar, because he's totally loyal, and he's totally honorable. That doesn't sound very racist to me. Look at Edwin: he's the most selfish, arrogant sumana gun you'd ever hope to have in your party, and he's white. Jon Irenicus, the worst of them all, is a white guy. [ 11-12-2002, 02:25 AM: Message edited by: Trau ] __________________ Black Bush: \"UN got a problem with me in Iraq? You know what you should do? You should sanction me. Sanction me with your army. Oh wait, you don\'t have an army. I guess that means you should need to shut the fk up! SHUT THE FK UP!\"

11-11-2002, 09:45 AM	#6
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Plot Spoiler ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Yoshimo's story is one of tragedy. He did not backstabbed you out of freewill, but because Jon Irenicus( JI) placed a Geas on Yoshimo which basically meant that Yoshimo had to obey JI's every command or die. His redemption comes about when you forgive him for his transgressions and send his heart to the appropriate temple( Ilmater if I recall correctly).

11-11-2002, 11:55 AM	#7
Sorcerer Alex Guest Posts: n/a	Anomen is racist. He accused me of stealing his bling-bling [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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