AMD vs P4

[Paladin2000]

Sir Krustin,

Thanks for the link. Anyway, as the saying goes:

Once bitten twice Shy.

I don't think I will be using AMD CPUs for a long time. Unless if I really need to upgrade my PC and low on budget.

To be honest, I have been using Intel CPUs since the early 120 MMX and I haven't encounter any problwm with the CPU before.

Besides, Intel has never claimed that their CPUs are as fast as AMD xxx CPUs. Just plain raw CPU power in terms of speed in MHz or GHz is good enough for me.

[The Fallen One]

AMD processors are cheaper but they sacriface stability and quality for their cheapness. Intel Processors (excluding the celeron) are more stable and have quality even though they are a bit more expensive. Personally i prefer intel's processors (except the celeron) but people liek AMD because they are cost effective (i guess).

[ 01-18-2004, 05:00 PM: Message edited by: The Fallen One ]

[The Fallen One]

interpid, a piece of advice, if u have to choose between a celeron and an AMD processor, go with the AMD. The Celerons are just busted P4 processors with no cache on the processor. No cache makes the processor alot slower than the stated speed. But AMDs have the cache and the prices are around the same as the celerons. Celeron < AMD < P4 . Get a P4 if possible but AMD is definately better if u have to choose between that and a celeron.

[Mouse]

In terms of bangs per buck, the AMD XP2800 (Barton) would seem to be right up there. In fact, I'm currently toying with the idea of flashing my mobo's BIOS and fitting one to replace my XP2200.

[Ziroc]

Originally posted by Intrepid: I am considering this question as i am planning an upgrade, i think i will go with an AMD or a celeron as i don't want to pay too much. In Australian dolars: celeron 2ghz $100 celeron 2.5ghz $125 celeron 2.8ghz $189 pent 4 2.6ghz $289 pent 4 2.8ghz $325 pent 4 3ghz $435 AMD 2000 $104 AMD 2400 $122 AMD 2500 $139 AMD 2800 $218 AMD 3000 $318 AMD 3200 $349 AMD 3200 (64) $650 Conversions: $100 AUD = $77 US $125 AUD = $97 US $150 AUD = $115 US $175 AUD = $135 US $200 AUD = $154 US $300 AUD = $231 US With prices like that i might go for a celeron 2.5 or an AMD 2500+

NewEgg's prices a a bit better-- go to www.newegg.com (an EXCELLENT site) and the price for a:

AMD 2600 XP = $100.00 US
AMD 2700 XP = $113.00 US
AMD 2800 XP = $137.00 US
AMD 3000 XP = $197.00 US
AMD 3200 XP = $220.00 US

Here is the link to all the AMD's. Personally, if I were you, I would go with the AMD 2600 XP. It's cheap and fast!!

[Thoran]

For total craziness get a Dual Opteron workstation (I've got one on order at work)

For top performance that doesn't break the bank go Athlon64 FX

For good performance/mid price go Intel P4.

For affordable systems go Athlon XP

[Intrepid]

Originally posted by The Fallen One: interpid, a piece of advice, if u have to choose between a celeron and an AMD processor, go with the AMD. The Celerons are just busted P4 processors with no cache on the processor. No cache makes the processor alot slower than the stated speed. But AMDs have the cache and the prices are around the same as the celerons. Celeron < AMD < P4 . Get a P4 if possible but AMD is definately better if u have to choose between that and a celeron.

Thanks for the advice, i have noticed celerons are much slower than a P4 but seem pretty much equal in clock speed to a PIII, anyway thanks for the advice as long as a mother board that supports the AMD is reasonably cheap i'll deffinatly go for one.

[Intrepid]

Originally posted by Ziroc: NewEgg's prices a a bit better-- go to www.newegg.com (an EXCELLENT site) and the price for a: AMD 2600 XP = $100.00 US AMD 2700 XP = $113.00 US AMD 2800 XP = $137.00 US AMD 3000 XP = $197.00 US AMD 3200 XP = $220.00 US Here is the link to all the AMD's. Personally, if I were you, I would go with the AMD 2600 XP. It's cheap and fast!! [/QB]

Wow thanks for the link, the only problem is the price of shipment to Australia, because i'm considering a full upgrade including motherboard, CPU, videocard, harddrive, and ram. So i might just buy from this local company or go to a computer fair. But deffinatly if the shipping costs are reasonable i'll go with newegg.com.
Thanks again.

[Tyranny]SiN[]

Intel rules! Never did like AMD. Had that K6-3 and the Athlon... had nothing but grief when trying to run a myraid of different applications. Its like the chips would skip code instruction and then just die.

Intel, Gigabyte mobos, and corsair ram. can't go wrong with the 8iH* combination mobos.

[Thoran]

Originally posted by Tyranny]SiN[: Intel rules! Never did like AMD. Had that K6-3 and the Athlon... had nothing but grief when trying to run a myraid of different applications. Its like the chips would skip code instruction and then just die. Intel, Gigabyte mobos, and corsair ram. can't go wrong with the 8iH* combination mobos.

I never recommended AMD processors up until the Athlon. The Athlon is a solid design, lacking in a few places (thermal management primarily) but affordable and a good performer. The Opteron is a VERY well designed processor, with features that normally aren't found on inexpensive (relatively) systems.

I've had mixed luck myself with Gigabyte, one board failed after 6 months or so... the second I'm still using and has worked very well. I like Mushkin DDR but at the high end there's several decent vendors (no one should EVER buy the crap no-name brands... not worth it).

Here's the Opteron box I just ordered, can't wait to see what it can do:

Poly 2020A Dual Opteron ATX MB w/8x AGP, Gigabit Lan
2 AMD Opteron Model 240 Processors (64 bit-1.8Ghz)
4 DDR333 512Meg ECC/Registered
Maxtor 60GB ATA133 7200RPM IDE Hard Disk
2 WD SATA 36G 10kRPM HDD 8M Cache
Sony DVD+RW DRU-530A
Nvidia GeForceFX 5900 Ultra 256M 8x AGP
2 NEC Multisync LCD2080UX-BK 20" LCD Displays

I'm going to drop another $12k in Matrox Vision Processing hardware into the beast and take it for a test drive... see what kind of performance I can get out of the non uniform memory architecture. Probably start with a dual boot XP64/64 bit SuSE Linux setup. I've got a SCSI Raid array with a 64bit PCI-X controller waiting in the wings if the SATA stuff isn't fast enough... but from what I've heard it should be plenty fast.