Treatment of prisoners (yep, those ones...) - Page 23

01-31-2002, 12:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Melusine:

Jim, hon [img]smile.gif[/img] read my post!!!
I am actually defending your national pride, but if *I* can be understanding about a phenomenon that seems alien to me, please extend the same courtesy to me. [img]smile.gif[/img]
I can understand why Americans feel so much national pride (in fact I've been one of the few non-Americans defending you w/r/t this matter), so please, could youat least try and understand that Europeans/non-Americans feel differently? Of course there are many people here who like their countries, but in most cases it doesn't compare to American patriotism. That's fine. Please, don't you see how weird it is that whenever the subject is as much as brought up, the Americans in this thread immediately pipe up "well what's so evil about patriotism??" HELL, people, if I thought it was evil, I wouldn't be defending you guys! Again, read my post. All I am trying to do is point out that it's simply a cultural difference. Most of us won't ever completely agree about it, but we can understand WHY we feel differently about it. I for one think I can.

About Bush, I know, I know. It was a joke
I mean, when Rikard warned against being swayed by this smooth talking leader, I hardly would think of Bush (I imagine his public imago would have been different if the 9/11 events had not taken place). Anyway I wasn't saying he was a bad speaker, but he's hardly the charismatic, hypnotic Mr Crowd Control figure Hitler could be. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Hey Mel [img]smile.gif[/img] I totaly agree with you about Bush on the speaking thing...Im pretty Pro-Bush all round but even I can recognize that he is not the greatest public speaker.

Unfortunately for the whole world we will never know what the world would be like today if 9/11 hadn't happened...but then thats the way History is...I mean Would FDR have had 4 consecutive terms if December 7th hadn't happened? The world will never know.

John D Harris · 01-31-2002, 08:45 PM

Here's an interesting story http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,44362,00.html

01-31-2002, 12:38 PM	#221
MagiK Guest Posts: n/a	quote: Originally posted by Melusine: Jim, hon [img]smile.gif[/img] read my post!!! I am actually defending your national pride, but if I can be understanding about a phenomenon that seems alien to me, please extend the same courtesy to me. [img]smile.gif[/img] I can understand why Americans feel so much national pride (in fact I've been one of the few non-Americans defending you w/r/t this matter), so please, could youat least try and understand that Europeans/non-Americans feel differently? Of course there are many people here who like their countries, but in most cases it doesn't compare to American patriotism. That's fine. Please, don't you see how weird it is that whenever the subject is as much as brought up, the Americans in this thread immediately pipe up "well what's so evil about patriotism??" HELL, people, if I thought it was evil, I wouldn't be defending you guys! Again, read my post. All I am trying to do is point out that it's simply a cultural difference. Most of us won't ever completely agree about it, but we can understand WHY we feel differently about it. I for one think I can. About Bush, I know, I know. It was a joke I mean, when Rikard warned against being swayed by this smooth talking leader, I hardly would think of Bush (I imagine his public imago would have been different if the 9/11 events had not taken place). Anyway I wasn't saying he was a bad speaker, but he's hardly the charismatic, hypnotic Mr Crowd Control figure Hitler could be. [img]smile.gif[/img] Hey Mel [img]smile.gif[/img] I totaly agree with you about Bush on the speaking thing...Im pretty Pro-Bush all round but even I can recognize that he is not the greatest public speaker. Unfortunately for the whole world we will never know what the world would be like today if 9/11 hadn't happened...but then thats the way History is...I mean Would FDR have had 4 consecutive terms if December 7th hadn't happened? The world will never know.

01-31-2002, 08:45 PM	#222
John D Harris Ninja Storm Shadow Join Date: March 27, 2001 Location: Northport,Alabama, USA Age: 62 Posts: 3,577	Here's an interesting story http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,44362,00.html __________________ Crustiest of the OLD COOTS "Donating mirrors for years to help the Liberal/Socialist find their collective rear-ends, because both hands doesn't seem to be working. Veitnam 61-65:KIA 1864 66:KIA 5008 67:KIA 9378 68:KIA 14594 69:KIA 9414 70:KIA 4221 71:KIA 1380 72:KIA 300 Afghanistan2001-2008 KIA 585 2009-2012 KIA 1465 and counting Davros 1 Much abliged Massachusetts

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Okaaaay... Bible, Shakespeare get Japanese manga treatment	Dreamer128	General Discussion	2	03-28-2007 08:24 AM
Ethical treatment, what's your opinion?	PurpleXVI	General Discussion	16	02-01-2007 07:47 PM
US treatment of prisoners (actual video footage)	shamrock_uk	General Discussion	118	05-23-2004 11:47 AM
Cancer treatment	Donut	General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005)	43	12-03-2002 07:30 PM
anthrax treatment, your thots, anyone care, tell me	J.J.	General Discussion	8	10-18-2001 01:25 PM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)