Redundant tears ?

Leofric the Unsteady · 05-29-2002, 06:01 PM

I have just noticed that my main character (a monk, I think they are terrific)still has the 5 tears of Bhaal in his backpack. I last saw them before the Irenicus finale in SoA and thought I had placed them in the sockets of the final gateway. This made me wonder if I really had imported the final save from SoA to start ToB, but I also have the thingummy of the Seldarine which you get from the nice lady as thanks for saving the world, so I must have done the right thing. Do I need to keep the tears ? They are cluttering up my backpack and I will drop them unless they have a future purpose. I do know that, with Bioware, almost everything has a reason.
Thanks for your attention.

Helspanth · 05-29-2002, 06:03 PM

IF you imported from your final save you don't get any of the abilities you would gain from the tears.
I suggest that you replay the final battle of SoA and then move to ToB.
Trust me those abilities are worth it!

[ 05-29-2002, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Helspanth ]

Leofric the Unsteady · 05-29-2002, 06:09 PM

Thankyou, Helspanth. Do I just go back to a late savegame in SoA, and will ToB then follow straight on - presumably after the final cutscene - or do i have to reinstall ToB ?

Helspanth · 05-29-2002, 06:13 PM

Hey no problem!Glad to help!
You replay the final battle and then ToB begins smoothly.
Hmmm.
Now that I think of it if you don't want to fight Irenicus again you can try and save AFTER you have placed the tears but BEFORE I renicus appears.
Then import from that save!

Leofric the Unsteady · 05-30-2002, 05:17 AM

I know this is wise and sensible advice and I am pretty sure it would work. Unfortunately it feels a bit like telling Charles I to have his head cut off all over again. I only finished the final Irenicus battle 4 days ago and it took 5 re-loads,the total eradication of Valygar, the skin of my teeth and 60 percent of my sanity. So I dread having to do it again.Irenicus rushes out without allowing a pause once the tears are in place. Anyway, why do I have the green necklace ? Surely this means that the save I used occurred (automatically) *after* the battle, and hence after the tears had been placed.Of course, I can`t remember exactly which save it was - either an auto-save or a quicksave, I think. These saves have now vanished anyway - I can only find the relatively new ToB saves indexed.But don`t think me ungrateful - the adv ice helped a lot.
Leo

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 05-30-2002, 07:52 AM

Ah taking on Irenicus isn't so bad. Just deal with the demons; summon ur own if u like. I actually geared up my two mages 'aerie' and 'immy'(Imeon) with 'time stop' and cast lower lvl spells on Jon; he got really annoyed when his spells didnt work, and started calling me names... like 'gnat'. Then my ranger stuck his sword in Jon a few times, with J(jaheria) and Minsc backing him up. Ameon was just standing around for the hell of it, occationally casting 'holy smite'. How did your battle go? 60% of your sanity gone? wow, sounds bad, anyway good luck facing Jon again.

Melle · 05-31-2002, 05:05 AM

I think the amulet automatically appears when you start ToB, no matter what.

Helspanth · 05-31-2002, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Melle:
I think the amulet automatically appears when you start ToB, no matter what.

Yep!It does appear no matter what!

Leofric the Unsteady · 06-01-2002, 02:19 PM

My excuses ran out last night ! Melle and Helspanth both pointed out that the green amulet comes automatically with the start of ToB, and is not evidence that I got right to the end of SoA. I then found that the saves from SoA were (not surprisingly) all saved under the heading "Shadows of Amn" that comes as an alternative to the saves in ToB. So I did the decent thing, went back, fought rotten old Irenicus all over again, and restarted ToB as a seamless continuation to the SoA ending. I`ve collected Sarevok again, have no tears in my backpack and have collected those valuable stats from placing the tears.The Irenicus battle wasn`t so bad - I took out the demons first and then had Jaheira rush around healing everyone and simply had everyone else belt JI ceaselessly. It worked. So much for subtlety ! Leo

05-29-2002, 06:03 PM	#2
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 42 Posts: 1,050	IF you imported from your final save you don't get any of the abilities you would gain from the tears. I suggest that you replay the final battle of SoA and then move to ToB. Trust me those abilities are worth it! [ 05-29-2002, 06:08 PM: Message edited by: Helspanth ] __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

05-29-2002, 06:13 PM	#4
Helspanth Quintesson Join Date: January 21, 2002 Location: Thessaloniki,Hellas Age: 42 Posts: 1,050	Hey no problem!Glad to help! You replay the final battle and then ToB begins smoothly. Hmmm. Now that I think of it if you don't want to fight Irenicus again you can try and save AFTER you have placed the tears but BEFORE I renicus appears. Then import from that save! __________________ \"Sorrow is the future tense of love\"

05-30-2002, 07:52 AM	#6
Calaethis Dragonsbane Legion Symbol Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Somewhere in between Age: 39 Posts: 7,029	Ah taking on Irenicus isn't so bad. Just deal with the demons; summon ur own if u like. I actually geared up my two mages 'aerie' and 'immy'(Imeon) with 'time stop' and cast lower lvl spells on Jon; he got really annoyed when his spells didnt work, and started calling me names... like 'gnat'. Then my ranger stuck his sword in Jon a few times, with J(jaheria) and Minsc backing him up. Ameon was just standing around for the hell of it, occationally casting 'holy smite'. How did your battle go? 60% of your sanity gone? wow, sounds bad, anyway good luck facing Jon again. __________________ Skydracgrrl: Cruelty, thy name is Cal! --- There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, none so deaf as those who refuse to hear, and none so smelly as those who refuse to bathe.

05-31-2002, 05:05 AM	#7
Melle Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 13, 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 40 Posts: 19	I think the amulet automatically appears when you start ToB, no matter what. __________________ Chaotic Evil<br /><br />Junior member of the anti-Anomen Society. At least Edwin knows how to be arrogant with style.

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05-29-2002, 06:01 PM	#1
Leofric the Unsteady Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: York,United Kingdom Age: 80 Posts: 16	I have just noticed that my main character (a monk, I think they are terrific)still has the 5 tears of Bhaal in his backpack. I last saw them before the Irenicus finale in SoA and thought I had placed them in the sockets of the final gateway. This made me wonder if I really had imported the final save from SoA to start ToB, but I also have the thingummy of the Seldarine which you get from the nice lady as thanks for saving the world, so I must have done the right thing. Do I need to keep the tears ? They are cluttering up my backpack and I will drop them unless they have a future purpose. I do know that, with Bioware, almost everything has a reason. Thanks for your attention.

05-29-2002, 06:09 PM	#3
Leofric the Unsteady Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: York,United Kingdom Age: 80 Posts: 16	Thankyou, Helspanth. Do I just go back to a late savegame in SoA, and will ToB then follow straight on - presumably after the final cutscene - or do i have to reinstall ToB ?

05-30-2002, 05:17 AM	#5
Leofric the Unsteady Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: York,United Kingdom Age: 80 Posts: 16	I know this is wise and sensible advice and I am pretty sure it would work. Unfortunately it feels a bit like telling Charles I to have his head cut off all over again. I only finished the final Irenicus battle 4 days ago and it took 5 re-loads,the total eradication of Valygar, the skin of my teeth and 60 percent of my sanity. So I dread having to do it again.Irenicus rushes out without allowing a pause once the tears are in place. Anyway, why do I have the green necklace ? Surely this means that the save I used occurred (automatically) after the battle, and hence after the tears had been placed.Of course, I can`t remember exactly which save it was - either an auto-save or a quicksave, I think. These saves have now vanished anyway - I can only find the relatively new ToB saves indexed.But don`t think me ungrateful - the adv ice helped a lot. Leo

06-01-2002, 02:19 PM	#9
Leofric the Unsteady Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: York,United Kingdom Age: 80 Posts: 16	My excuses ran out last night ! Melle and Helspanth both pointed out that the green amulet comes automatically with the start of ToB, and is not evidence that I got right to the end of SoA. I then found that the saves from SoA were (not surprisingly) all saved under the heading "Shadows of Amn" that comes as an alternative to the saves in ToB. So I did the decent thing, went back, fought rotten old Irenicus all over again, and restarted ToB as a seamless continuation to the SoA ending. I`ve collected Sarevok again, have no tears in my backpack and have collected those valuable stats from placing the tears.The Irenicus battle wasn`t so bad - I took out the demons first and then had Jaheira rush around healing everyone and simply had everyone else belt JI ceaselessly. It worked. So much for subtlety ! Leo

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