1 in 20 British Women Have Been Raped

[Oblivion437]

I read a story about a guy who's wife was raped, and he hunted the guy down, and killed his ass. I can't disagree with getting revenge on the bastard who does it, and Like I said, child pornographers should have their member chopped up in a sausage grinder.

[Tanoch Thas'ala]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Hmmmm... searching for British crime statistics on the internet is like scratching my eyeballs. Maybe it is because I do not know where to start looking, I will need somebody from Britain/UK to point me in the right direction. Note, I am replying in chronological order, to no one in particular. I was expecting the 'unreported factor' argument( and I do acknowledge its presence), but under the assumption that this 1:20 ratio is from the British police files, then it sorts of nullifies the argument as both British and Singaporean sides will have their own unreported cases. I am dealing with the reported figures right now, and 1:20 compared to 1:20000 is huge, which is why I say I find it hard to believe that Britain have a thousand times more rape. Yes, one rape is already too many, but there is also no need to blow things out of proportion. I am not advocating that we ignore rape or consider it a minor issue, but we have to be credible. In addition, saying that Singapore's small size is a factor is not valid. I have been using ratios, not whole numbers. -------- andrewas, to maintain a 1:20 rape ratio in the population, there has to be an average of 1:20 rapes per year, considering births, deaths, aging and all. -------- At this point, I just wish to clarify that I am very much against rape, and will not tolerate any instances of it. ~~ADD] The only African country I have been to is Egypt. Europe-wise, I have only been to United Kingdom( England, Scotland and Wales), and a brief stay( 2d3n days) in Turkey.

I reread the original post and no mention was made of Police Statistics. So more than likely the stats are based on some one polling the public...Which would mean most of the rapes were probably not reported...

Why is it so hard to believe that women are assualted often?

[Sazerac]

Originally posted by johnny: This might sound a bit harsh, but if it was up to me, i'd remove all captured rapists dongs. If you stab someone the cops take away the knife, if you shoot someone the cops take away the gun, so if you rape someone...... know what i'm saying ? They'll never do THAT again, that's for sure.

It's been shown that sex crimes are not sexually motivated, but motivated more out of ideas of anger, power, conquest, and domination. You may take away the instrument, but they'll find something else to vent their sickness through.

Castration and emasculation doesn't work. Sorry.

-Sazerac

[Melusine]

Originally posted by Sazerac: It's been shown that sex crimes are not sexually motivated, but motivated more out of ideas of anger, power, conquest, and domination. You may take away the instrument, but they'll find something else to vent their sickness through. Castration and emasculation doesn't work. Sorry. -Sazerac

Saz is absolutely right - it has little to do with sex and a lot with power. Don't think a man can't rape a woman just because you take away the 'equipment' (which is a barbaric and stupid punishment in my opinion anyway)
Personally I am against the death penalty or primitive punishments, so I would not ever wish it on anybody. I do feel however that sex crimes should be punished very heavily - lifelong imprisonment in the case of the serious crimes.

A few of the posts here made me wonder about something that's crossed my mind before. I hope no one takes offense, but I get the impression that usually, men are the ones to talk the loudest about how horrible rape is. I know men get raped too, and I know it's technically possible for a woman to rape a man, but I think it's fair to say that most rapes by far are committed by men. So why is it that men usually seem to stress the gruesomeness of the crime even more than women? Is it some sort of unfounded guilty sort of feeling on behalf of their sex or something? Maybe I'm barking up a completely wrong psychobabble tree here, but I've had it in the back of my mind for a while, and seen lots of topics on different forums where it really seems to be the case.

[Neb]

Or perhaps it's because we fear something as horrible as rape happening to the women and girls that we love [img]smile.gif[/img] I know that that's certainly one thing that motivates my hatred of rape and rapists.....

[Melusine]

Originally posted by Neb: Or perhaps it's because we fear something as horrible as rape happening to the women and girls that we love [img]smile.gif[/img] I know that that's certainly one thing that motivates my hatred of rape and rapists.....

That's a good point, but if it happens to the girl/woman, isn't it worse for you than for her? By going on about how horrid rape is aren't you taking something away from her? After all, how would YOU know, she's the one who had to go through it. Sort of like you're trivialising how bad the experience itself must have been if you're the one talking about it when you haven't even been there. I don't mean offense by that, and I'm not saying that I feel that way - it's just speculation...

I don't think it's trivialisation. I know a few girls that have been raped or assaulted. Even had a hand in "stopping" rapists years ago (not directly though)

I don't pretend to imagine what it's like, though. But the effect on the women themselves is enough for me to know that if I came across someone raping a girl he would be lucky to survive

[Horatio]

I speak out very loudly against rape. I know a total of 5 women who have been raped. 3 friends, a girl who was in direct competition with me at a track competition, and my (ex)girlfriend. Many think that rape lasts a night, and the smarter think that the victim is traumatised for months. What lots of people do not realise is that a rape victim is traumatised for the rest of their life. No matter how much therapy, no matter how many support groups, the sense of violation NEVER goes. Not only for the victim, but for the victim's close loved ones. I have seen families ripped apart, and a group of friends who have been together since they were three were decimated. The memory is ALWAYS there. I will stop now, it's getting harder to write this.

[Melusine]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not at all saying it's hypocritical for a man to sympathise with a rape victim, or that he has no right to. Like I said, it's just something that struck me as odd, that men seem to get more worked up about it than women. Neb's point is certainly valid, but the objection remains that it still doesn't explain why men react MORE than women. It explains why they find rape a horrible crime, but that doesn't need explaining anyway.
And like I said, also, I know that men get raped too, but usually by other men.

[ 07-23-2002, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: Melusine ]

Not sure to be honest. On a basic level we still view women as a physically weaker sex. And for some of us, defending them has been drummed in from kids age

maybe it's an offshoot of that. the feeling that male rapists are betraying the rest of us somehow too perhaps