Monk matters

Serak Moonblade · 02-08-2005, 09:46 AM

what are the skill and feat points that are right for a monk? i plan to multiclass him later to a cleric. or would a ranger or druid be better. i already have a dreadmaster whom i plan to multiclass to a monk later.

what about weapons? is there any point in giving a monk weapon proficieny?

Bozos of Bones · 02-08-2005, 12:36 PM

Well, IMHO Monks make better druids than clerics. Good feats include Power Attack, Cleave, Saves, Dodge, Improved Critical. Take Hide and Move Silently as skills, maybe even search or disarm or something, but it's unneeded.

Marty4 · 02-08-2005, 02:52 PM

Only take weapon proficiencies if you plan on using a bow or the like, you will be using plane fists for melee.

Vassago · 02-08-2005, 04:14 PM

Taking weapon proficiencies depends on how many Monk levels you are going to take.

Quote:

Level 1-3: 1-6
Level 4-7: 1-8
Level 8-11: 1-10
Level 12-15: 1-12
Level 16-20: 1-20
Level 21-25: 1-20 +1-6
Level 26-30: 1-20 +1-10

This is the progression of the damage level Monk's fist do per Monk level. Also, Monk's unarmed attack doesn't count as an enchancement bonus until Monk level 10. Therefore, IMO, I would use a weapon over fists with any Monk less than level 12 and even then I would consider a weapon if it were greater than 1D12, which most would be at that point in the game.

Bozos of Bones · 02-08-2005, 04:45 PM

I never ever use weapons with monks. Unless they have less than 15 levels mutliclassed. Why? They get special bonuses to hit when using their hands. They gain additional attacks per round if unarmed. And they do more damage than anything other than the MGAoF and some other rare weapons. In the rare rare occasions their natural Ki Strike is not enough to hit someone, there's always to strike something other than the primary target. One single area in the game requires +4 enchantment, and doesn't have alternative targets to bash up.

Jerry_Seinfeld · 02-08-2005, 07:24 PM

Well if you want to power up your monk big-time, add the improved monk ease of use mod. It makes the monks fists count as daggers, so you can take finess and take the dex modifyer instead of the str, saving some stat points.

Serak Moonblade · 02-09-2005, 02:12 AM

well jerry my str and dex are equal (15 or 16 i think) so will the mod make a difference.

Serak Moonblade · 02-09-2005, 02:14 AM

one more thing 'bout monks:

will their faith make a difference in their abolitie like that of a cleric? if so which ones are good for what?

Aerich · 02-09-2005, 03:06 AM

If your Str and Dex are equal, no need for the mod (or at least the fists-as-small-weapons part).

The monk's faith doesn't make a difference, as far as I know. However it does affect what class you can multiclass to without losing the ability to take more monk levels. Alignment has a role here too.

ZFR · 02-09-2005, 03:11 AM

The mod will make a difference before creating a monk (I never used the mod though). You can spend less points in STR and more in DEX.

The faith of the monk has no new abilities. It dtermines what class you can dual-class to and still being able to take monk levels later and can restrict your allignement.

EDIT: - looks like Aerich types faster

[ 02-09-2005, 03:13 AM: Message edited by: ZFR ]

02-08-2005, 09:46 AM	#1
Serak Moonblade Manshoon Join Date: November 21, 2004 Location: Mumbai Age: 41 Posts: 169	what are the skill and feat points that are right for a monk? i plan to multiclass him later to a cleric. or would a ranger or druid be better. i already have a dreadmaster whom i plan to multiclass to a monk later. what about weapons? is there any point in giving a monk weapon proficieny? __________________ Aut disce aut discede . . . . Either learn or leave

02-08-2005, 12:36 PM	#2
Bozos of Bones Apophis Join Date: July 29, 2003 Location: The Underdark cavern of Zagreb Age: 37 Posts: 4,679	Well, IMHO Monks make better druids than clerics. Good feats include Power Attack, Cleave, Saves, Dodge, Improved Critical. Take Hide and Move Silently as skills, maybe even search or disarm or something, but it's unneeded. __________________ MAKE LOVE, NOT SPAM!

02-08-2005, 04:45 PM	#5
Bozos of Bones Apophis Join Date: July 29, 2003 Location: The Underdark cavern of Zagreb Age: 37 Posts: 4,679	I never ever use weapons with monks. Unless they have less than 15 levels mutliclassed. Why? They get special bonuses to hit when using their hands. They gain additional attacks per round if unarmed. And they do more damage than anything other than the MGAoF and some other rare weapons. In the rare rare occasions their natural Ki Strike is not enough to hit someone, there's always to strike something other than the primary target. One single area in the game requires +4 enchantment, and doesn't have alternative targets to bash up. __________________ MAKE LOVE, NOT SPAM!

02-08-2005, 07:24 PM	#6
Jerry_Seinfeld The Magister Join Date: December 9, 2004 Location: VA Age: 36 Posts: 114	Well if you want to power up your monk big-time, add the improved monk ease of use mod. It makes the monks fists count as daggers, so you can take finess and take the dex modifyer instead of the str, saving some stat points. __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[monster3]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/monster3.gif\" />

02-09-2005, 02:12 AM	#7
Serak Moonblade Manshoon Join Date: November 21, 2004 Location: Mumbai Age: 41 Posts: 169	well jerry my str and dex are equal (15 or 16 i think) so will the mod make a difference. __________________ Aut disce aut discede . . . . Either learn or leave

02-08-2005, 02:52 PM	#3
Marty4 Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 31, 2004 Location: VA Age: 33 Posts: 1,127	Only take weapon proficiencies if you plan on using a bow or the like, you will be using plane fists for melee.

02-09-2005, 02:14 AM	#8
Serak Moonblade Manshoon Join Date: November 21, 2004 Location: Mumbai Age: 41 Posts: 169	one more thing 'bout monks: will their faith make a difference in their abolitie like that of a cleric? if so which ones are good for what? __________________ Aut disce aut discede . . . . Either learn or leave

02-09-2005, 03:06 AM	#9
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	If your Str and Dex are equal, no need for the mod (or at least the fists-as-small-weapons part). The monk's faith doesn't make a difference, as far as I know. However it does affect what class you can multiclass to without losing the ability to take more monk levels. Alignment has a role here too. __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

02-09-2005, 03:11 AM	#10
ZFR Legion Symbol Join Date: February 14, 2002 Location: Ireland Age: 39 Posts: 7,367	The mod will make a difference before creating a monk (I never used the mod though). You can spend less points in STR and more in DEX. The faith of the monk has no new abilities. It dtermines what class you can dual-class to and still being able to take monk levels later and can restrict your allignement. EDIT: - looks like Aerich types faster [ 02-09-2005, 03:13 AM: Message edited by: ZFR ] __________________ ZFR

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