The difference between conservatives and liberals explained

[John D Harris]

Originally Posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar I sure don't For example, I've long said that while I hate what Ann Coulter says, I'll fight to the death her right to say it. So there you go. The problem is that I don't have a TV show.

That's good Illumina, glad to hear it. Not to be mean but did you happen to see where in my opening post I clearly said FIRST OFF? I'm asking cause I'm wondering how the talk of conservative vs liberal swithced to dem vs rep There's a world of difference between politcal parties and personal ideaology.

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

I did, but if the Democratic party is conservative and the Republican party is liberal then it makes me all uncomfortable

Meanwhile, I don't mean to make blanket statements here, but I choose to comment on the loudest people from each party... There are very few people who speak to a certain ideology as such, and more people who you can identify with a party which creates problems we've covered already.

Also, I would like to touch a bit on the whole "Liberals are all about free speech but want to silence Rush Limbaugh" thing. I've been thinking about that today. You *do* hear lots of misguided people on the left who want people to "shut up" (as opposed to "Freedom of speech means freedom to disagree. Loudly."), and how can this resolve itself? I think I have less of a problem with this than people on the Republican/"Right" (and I do use the connection loosely here) because there's less inherent hypocrisy... If you focus on individual rights and civil liberties, it's understandable that you'd want someone spewing venom to shut up. But isn't there inherent hypocrisy in the "Get the government off my back, but it can stay in bedrooms and uteruses" kind of thinking? Or is that kind of thinking something completely different and not conservative? If that's the case, are there almost no conservatives left? What do we call the people who say they're conservative and aren't? And why haven't the real conservatives risen up and taken their name back?

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

Originally Posted by Chewbacca Hey Illumina! I see it as more of a paradox. One rule I use is carefully believe what a liberal says about what a conservative IS and vice versa. Rarely if ever accurate and almost always spiced up to be as bad as possible.

Hey Chewie!

Someday I'll talk about my secret mission to destroy the family unit , but I feel it would destroy my credibility in the current conversation

[ElfBane]

Originally Posted by John D Harris That's good Illumina, glad to hear it. Not to be mean but did you happen to see where in my opening post I clearly said FIRST OFF? I'm asking cause I'm wondering how the talk of conservative vs liberal swithced to dem vs rep There's a world of difference between politcal parties and personal ideaology.

Mr. Harris, until post #11 of this thread, no one had made the liberal=Democrat or the conservative=Republican connection. Until you, that is.

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar Hey Chewie! Someday I'll talk about my secret mission to destroy the family unit , but I feel it would destroy my credibility in the current conversation

The family unit, yep got one myself. An email from a Dear One a while back is how I guessed the content of the OP from the title.

[Timber Loftis]

Ever wonder why liberal talk radio went nowhere? Ever wonder why liberals love comedy news?

The difference between liberals and conservatives, my friends, is that conservatives like to hear someone berate and preach. They like to be told what to think.

Liberals think for themselves, so someone preaching to them gets no listeners. Conversely, having already understood issues, second-level discourse in the form of comedy goes over well with them. Conservatives don't get comedy, being of course too dumb.

This of course is why it's easy to get all conservatives to line up on issues and vote the same. Having brains that operate at the zombie level of intelligence, you just point them at brains and say "go eat." Liberals, being independent thinkers, are difficult to control in this way, it's like herding cats. This of course is why with even a majority in both houses, the liberals are unable to come to a single consensus and beat down the conservatives on such things as much-needed health care reform.

:p

[Firestormalpha]

So you claim that an independent thinker would never arrive at a conservative viewpoint? That's where I have an issue with labeling people. It makes it too easy to lump people together under a preconceived idea. They say they have conservative views and you say they're just a follower.

Believe it or not some people will choose a conservative view because it's what they believe in, not because they were told what to choose.

Likewise, some people will choose liberal views because, hey thats where the herd is going.

There are bandwagoneers and independant thinkers on both sides.

[ElfBane]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis Ever wonder why liberal talk radio went nowhere? Ever wonder why liberals love comedy news? The difference between liberals and conservatives, my friends, is that conservatives like to hear someone berate and preach. They like to be told what to think. Liberals think for themselves, so someone preaching to them gets no listeners. Conversely, having already understood issues, second-level discourse in the form of comedy goes over well with them. Conservatives don't get comedy, being of course too dumb. This of course is why it's easy to get all conservatives to line up on issues and vote the same. Having brains that operate at the zombie level of intelligence, you just point them at brains and say "go eat." Liberals, being independent thinkers, are difficult to control in this way, it's like herding cats. This of course is why with even a majority in both houses, the liberals are unable to come to a single consensus and beat down the conservatives on such things as much-needed health care reform. :p

Good bait there TL! It got you a rise!

[Firestormalpha]

Last I checked, baiting was against the ToS. As I see it, he made a post, and I responded.

This attitude of "scoring points" off each other makes this forum an unpleasant place to visit. So lets all grow-up and discuss. Or shut up and leave.

[SpiritWarrior]

Originally Posted by Firestormalpha Last I checked, baiting was against the ToS. As I see it, he made a post, and I responded. This attitude of "scoring points" off each other makes this forum an unpleasant place to visit. So lets all grow-up and discuss. Or shut up and leave.

You're a bit late to this party if you're just realizing that baiting goes on here on IW. Haven't you met Felix?

See, this is my issue with people screaming foul and talking about the ToS when they don't like something - but saying nothing about it when they do like what is posted even if it is a breach. See the first page of GE for references.