Anyone here watch FOX News?

[Alexander]

Originally posted by Albromor: You have GOT to be kidding about the NY Times, right??? They are one of the MOST biased of all newspapers in the nation! Read their editorials and overall reporting. They just don't lean to the left, they ARE left and they freely admit this.

So what? No matter how biased a news station is, they wouldn't just make up an article!

Originally posted by Alexander: Hope not. Besides being BLATANTLY biased toward the right in all issues (which they freely admit) - which is the opposite of what journalism is meant to be, it now comes out that their supposed "Military Expert" who they claimed served in Vietnam, won the Silver Star, etc, served a grand total of 44 days in the service - all in boot camp. Lieutenant Colonel? Try PFC! Way to check your "experts" out, Fox! If I want in-depth investigative reporting, I think I'll turn to a network that doesn't even know who its "experts" are... http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/29/bu...ia/29HOAX.html

FOX does not "admit" to being biased toward the right..can you please post the article in which you saw suuch an admission from fox?

FOX may or may not have screwed the pooch with their "Military" adviser, I didn't see the story so I can't comment. What I do know about FOX is that it is THE only US television news organization with a stated goal of reporting the NEWS and not spinning the issues.

There has been recent announcements by whistle blowers at most of the other "NEWS" agencies that there is a decided overbalance toward the left in the US "Jounalism" lately.

On the whole, (and I don't watch television news all that much) When I have viewed FOX, it seemed to me that all they did was report the facts. I would prefer FOX over CNN any day. But I prefer to get my news from a variety of sources on the web, and not just from the US, I particularly like the reporting done by Canadian News agencies...when they are about international issues that is...some of the domestic issues are....hehe not of concern to the USA.

Not trying to bust your bubble, just curious as to what set you off? Just the one incident of the military advisor? Hey, anyone can lie on a resume, it took years for the College coach to get caught, the Fire chief here in DC lied out his arse to get his job, untill you have staffed a company Id be a bit less harsh on the people who are trying to fill the spaces, resumes and refferences are tough to check some times. Hell even the Secretary of the Navy a few years ago had some fibs on his record (the guy who shot himself..don't remember his name...might be Borda or some such)

Originally posted by Alexander: quote: Originally posted by Albromor: You have GOT to be kidding about the NY Times, right??? They are one of the MOST biased of all newspapers in the nation! Read their editorials and overall reporting. They just don't lean to the left, they ARE left and they freely admit this.

So what? No matter how biased a news station is, they wouldn't just make up an article![/QUOTE]By your own logic, FOX wouldn't just make stuff up about their Military advisor, so perhaps it wasn't their fault?

Originally posted by Azred: I always flip around, obtaining news from multiple sources. If you do this, you can balance them out and (usually) be able to figure out what is really going on. I agree with Ar-Cunin, though--always get your news from the BBC when you can (especially if you are an American) because then you don't have to filter out any left/right slant. Many news-oriented AM stations carry the BBC beginning at midnight (local time).

Smart move Az [img]smile.gif[/img] It is what I learned to do a loooong time ago. (I used to have access to the AP and UP lines, before it got to the news editing rooms [img]smile.gif[/img] amazing how stories change from the field to the nightly news) [img]smile.gif[/img] Multiple sources and some experience in the real world (defined as out side wherever your own back yard ends) is the only way to really have a clue.

[dizzy]

FOx new...isnt that an oxymoron

[Alexander]

Originally posted by MagiK: By your own logic, FOX wouldn't just make stuff up about their Military advisor, so perhaps it wasn't their fault?

It is their fault - they should have checked him out more thoroughly, especially if they were going to hire him as a consultant for their program.

[Alexander]

Originally posted by MagiK: FOX does not "admit" to being biased toward the right..can you please post the article in which you saw suuch an admission from fox?

Their mantra is that they are the counterweight to the alleged liberal bias of the other networks. The third article here goes into this quite a bit, the first two just point out how they don't even try to hide their bias.

http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/fox-main.html
http://www.cjr.org/year/98/2/fox.asp
http://torchmagazine.com/foxnews.html

FOX may or may not have screwed the pooch with their "Military" adviser, I didn't see the story so I can't comment. What I do know about FOX is that it is THE only US television news organization with a stated goal of reporting the NEWS and not spinning the issues.

Bull. Read the articles. Why is it that only the Republicans and conservatives like Fox News?

On the whole, (and I don't watch television news all that much) When I have viewed FOX, it seemed to me that all they did was report the facts. I would prefer FOX over CNN any day. But I prefer to get my news from a variety of sources on the web, and not just from the US, I particularly like the reporting done by Canadian News agencies...when they are about international issues that is...some of the domestic issues are....hehe not of concern to the USA.

Try MSNBC or BBC if you can get it. They provide the most balanced news. I don't watch CNN enough to know whether or not they're biased, but I doubt it.

Not trying to bust your bubble, just curious as to what set you off? Just the one incident of the military advisor? Hey, anyone can lie on a resume, it took years for the College coach to get caught, the Fire chief here in DC lied out his arse to get his job, untill you have staffed a company Id be a bit less harsh on the people who are trying to fill the spaces, resumes and refferences are tough to check some times. Hell even the Secretary of the Navy a few years ago had some fibs on his record (the guy who shot himself..don't remember his name...might be Borda or some such)

Hey, if you're going to have someone you're going to consult on the air, you'd better make darn sure you're not going to make an idiot out of yourself on the air.

[Alexander]

Oh, and for those of you who thought Bill O'Reilly isn't biased, sorry to break the news...

http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/oreilly.html

And here are Fox's "sources", most of which are conservative by an 8-1 ratio...

http://www.fair.org/extra/0108/sources.html

[flibulzbuth]

IMO, the best anglophone daily news ressource is The Independent (UK). At least for international news... i don't know a thing about british politics.
www.independent.co.uk

FOX is an insult to journalism! If you want to know how much FOX network is biased, check the archives of fairness and accuracy in reporting. They have LOTS of media alerts about FOX.
www.fair.org

*sigh* The virtue of Honesty is long dead it seems, is it possible to get unbiased news ANYWHERE today? I wish it was so. But sadly enough it probably isn't.....

I don't agree... Forget about TV, it's all on internet. I don't know what's your interest, but for each subject you can find info from every "side" whenever it's too hot to trust mass medias.

[Azred]

Originally posted by MagiK: Smart move Az [img]smile.gif[/img] It is what I learned to do a loooong time ago. (I used to have access to the AP and UP lines, before it got to the news editing rooms [img]smile.gif[/img] amazing how stories change from the field to the nightly news) [img]smile.gif[/img] Multiple sources and some experience in the real world (defined as out side wherever your own back yard ends) is the only way to really have a clue.

I forget who came up with the idea that, modern technology being what it is, news stories could be completely fabricated, including the video. However, for the sake of this discussion, we won't even go down that paranoid route.... Orson Welles' War of the Worlds--enough said.

It is never wise to accept what any one person or agency is telling you without trying to verify the information either for yourself or from other independent sources.