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Well, as is obvious in the article, this is what you Eurotwits have to look forward to immediately following cajoling on Iraq - cajoling on GMO food.
Personally, I hate GMO food, but don't mind so much if its labelled. I want to know exactly how "fishy" my fish-gene tomato is, thank you very much. I'm definately with the EU on this one, though - GMO food sucks. BTW, the labelling issue is mentioned half-way down, and is one of my top-5 favorite pet topics. The US did pass a labelling law last year - but got it bass-ackwards. Rather than making GMO foods put a label on the container (something like "eat this to turn green and glow" ) it allows "certified organic foods" to put a label on their container (something like "eat this if you want something close to real food" ). That's the wrong "burden of proof" IMO, plus it confuses the "organics" issue with the "genetically-modified" issue. From Today's NY Times Quote:
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I think this can be summed up with two words: Aw, nuts.
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02-05-2003, 04:52 PM | #3 |
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How about we just quarantine the USA from the world untill its passed safe from fishy tomatos (red herring brand? ) by the United Nations. We could send in some Iraq tomato inspectors [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]
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Yepp I agree with you Kaltia, they are nuts! LOL! Could this ban have something to do with those steel tolls? I´m not sure I understand this paragraph
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Just label the darn things and get over it already! How expensive can it be to print a few houndred thuosand labels saying "GMO"? Especially considering the billions it took to develop the crop. Quote:
Note: I´m actually in favor of GMO. At least the tried, tested and tested once again kind. If rigorous testing shows no side effects I´ll buy the food. And imagine Africa without famine (this is the closest we´ve been). [img]smile.gif[/img] Edit: Wellard, ROTFL! I´m not sure teh US government would fully co-operate with those Iraqi tomato inspectors. Then France would have to use their veto. LOLOL! [ 02-05-2003, 05:03 PM: Message edited by: WillowIX ]
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The only reason I said Aww nuts was because it's a good word to toss into a debate every now and then so people think you know what you're talking about [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Well.....
1. Trade barriers: Under the GATT/WTO it's an exception to the trade barrier rule if you can fit it into one of: (a) Article XX exceptions or (b) Sanitary/Phytosanitary exceptions, among a few others. In the Beef-Hormone case. The UK/EU argued hormone treated beef was a potential health hazard (sanitary/phytosanitary measure) and produced thousands of pages of science. The US said it wasn't, but could not release studies because they were Monsanto's trade secrets. The US won. Now, this is once again a burden-of-proof shell game: The UK, rightfully, wanted proof it was harmless before approving it; the US, wrongly but winningly, argued the UK must prove it bad before erecting any trade barriers. 2. Just wait till you see where this is going, folks: Tyson has already created the GMO headless chicken. 3. Any famine problem, the world over, can be solved by: (1) controlling population growth, and (2) a vegetarian diet (as the scientists can tell you, when a Cow eats grass and then we eat the cow, 90% of the energy found in the grass is lost - not to menion the resources we wasted caging, injecting, treating, transporting, and butchering the cow). |
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Um... Willow, I think my point was made whether it's grass or grain we're discussing.
WARNING: [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] But, while we're at it, I have heard that one of the worst trends of medicine is the antibiotic treatment newborns get when they have their first bacterial infection. This kills not only bad bacteria, but also the beneficial ones in the intestinal lining - which never return unless replenished. This is why I make it a point to eat live culture yogurt often. Lack of these gastrointenstinal bacteria, AFAIK, leads to many health problems, including ulcers. Any truth to this??? [ 02-05-2003, 06:16 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ] |
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[img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img] Antibiotics kills almost all bacteria in the body, including the ones lining the intestants. Of course those aren´t really needed BUT they are beneficial to the body. Since the immune system hasn´t destroyed them it is obvious the do not provoce any diseases. When a pathogen bacteria arrives it´s a good thing those bacteria are in place. The new infection can´t grow there since all space is already taken. Of course some bacteria in the intestines is really good for you. One species enables us to digest fibre. Unfortunately when doing so they produce methane and sulhpurdioxide. Add those to air in the colon and you get, well you know... Some physicians even promotes the idea of dabbing childrens mouths with a used dish cloth. Ewww!
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Breaking news on GMO
http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s777028.htm GMO tabbaco? oh well can't make it any more unsafe can they? [img]graemlins/docheart.gif[/img]
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