About kits

Zoltan · 08-27-2001, 01:13 AM

I think most of the kits are useless except Paladin kits they're very nice specially Cavalier is GREAT! Of course I don't use missile weapons I'm a melee fighter and the bonuses are GREAT! And Undead Hunter is also very GREAT! Think bout it! Immunity to drain level!! Also you become a undead slayer with +3 thaco and damage. A little but useful healing spell is not important after all.

About Fighter kit, Berserker is very good because it doesnt have any disadvantages for a melee fighter. In my opinion, I'm not agree with Kensai because I like to wear armor and feel it on my skin (roleplaying) After all there isn't BEST character, there's ENJOYING character to play.

Conjurer Mages are best. No more words I think? (just swords eheh)

Sorcerer, barbarian sucks

Memnoch · 08-27-2001, 01:44 AM

I think the kensai has lost a lot of its potency with ToB. What's the difference between a 25th level kensai and a 25th level fighter with critical strike? The fighter can wear armor, the kensai can't.

Other than that, I wouldn't say they were useless though, the stalker and the jester are really good.

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Grand-Ranger · 08-27-2001, 01:47 AM

YES MEMNOCH!! THANK YOU!

Jester rock! WHy cant people see that. As for all the otehr kits. I hear th assasian is alright. I hear alot of them are pretty good.

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So if in the forest look behind you, because that where the ranger is going to be

Dundee Slaytern · 08-27-2001, 05:27 AM

Sorcerers are generally 'harder' to play than Mages. However, with a carefully thought out, pre-defined spell list, it is usually more powerful than a Mage. The thing about Sorcerers is, they can cast more spells than Mages, and in terms of raw firepower, they simply overwhelm the Mage.

This becomes more apparent in ToB, where you can have Lvl 10 spells. For Mages, you have to sarcrifice a Lvl 9 spell slot to cast a Lvl 10 spell. For Sorcerers, you need not to.

Six Dragon's Breaths... *drooool*... ...

Of course, Sorcerers do have disadvantages, the main one being the restricted spell list. However, as I mentioned earlier, if you take the time to choose your spells before you make your Sorcerer, you can end up with a really powerful spell caster. Still, Mages have Sorcerers beat, in terms of adaptability and variety. I will not deny that. However, my Sorcerer can handle most situations without the need to change spells and rest.

Think about it too, how many different types of spells do you have per spell level? A Sorcerer can have five spells per level, which is more than enough for most vital spells.

Especially for Lvl 1 where I actually have the luxury to choose 'lousy' spells

Maybe for Lvl 6 and Lvl 7, you may have a hard time choosing, which brings us to the next question we magic-users must ask ourselves. How often do you use that spell?

I won't say Sorcerers beat Mages in every department, but really, they far from suck. With proper planning, they can easily be one of the best spell-casters in the game.

PS: Some choose Mages because they want to be able to earn Xp from reading scrolls.

Trust me, there's more than enough in the game to make this a moot point except for Dual-class characters.

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If not a Sorcerer, then a Paladin.

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Baldur's Gate Item Mart

Mack_Attack · 08-27-2001, 10:26 AM

Barbarian suck I am not to sure they suck. I am trying this kit out and kind of like it. They get to move faster, more hp, all the slashing and fighting reistance, and also get the rage thing which protects from level drain. And it is no big deal you can not get plate armor. Just grab dragon scale.

Zoltan · 08-27-2001, 01:31 PM

WHat about Jester is it a good Kit? As I know Bard song does not improve it has only confusing song. so it can be useless to confuse resistent creatures right?

blade kit looks fine

HooC · 08-27-2001, 01:34 PM

Kensai is very deadly.
Make him an elf with Dexterity 19 and give him some armor reducing goodies and voila.. You have a slayer

dimon37 · 08-27-2001, 03:26 PM

I think all classes and kits offer something unique or at least a little different.
Barbarian is not a kit, it's a different class all together. I like them a lot, espesially immunity to backstab

DEADMAN · 08-27-2001, 03:38 PM

The kits for clerics are nice, since you gain abilities without losing anything.

Nolek Psyphon · 08-27-2001, 05:08 PM

Don't forget about the Swashbuckler. With two weapon style you can become a strong fighter with the added bonus of thieving abilities.

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08-27-2001, 01:13 AM	#1
Zoltan Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: Waterdeep Age: 43 Posts: 1,222	I think most of the kits are useless except Paladin kits they're very nice specially Cavalier is GREAT! Of course I don't use missile weapons I'm a melee fighter and the bonuses are GREAT! And Undead Hunter is also very GREAT! Think bout it! Immunity to drain level!! Also you become a undead slayer with +3 thaco and damage. A little but useful healing spell is not important after all. About Fighter kit, Berserker is very good because it doesnt have any disadvantages for a melee fighter. In my opinion, I'm not agree with Kensai because I like to wear armor and feel it on my skin (roleplaying) After all there isn't BEST character, there's ENJOYING character to play. Conjurer Mages are best. No more words I think? (just swords eheh) Sorcerer, barbarian sucks

08-27-2001, 01:44 AM	#2
Memnoch Ironworks Moderator Join Date: February 28, 2001 Location: Boston/Sydney Posts: 11,771	I think the kensai has lost a lot of its potency with ToB. What's the difference between a 25th level kensai and a 25th level fighter with critical strike? The fighter can wear armor, the kensai can't. Other than that, I wouldn't say they were useless though, the stalker and the jester are really good. ------------------

08-27-2001, 01:47 AM	#3
Grand-Ranger Galvatron Join Date: March 29, 2001 Location: Everywhere I wanna go its already where I am,cause I am already there Posts: 2,130	YES MEMNOCH!! THANK YOU! Jester rock! WHy cant people see that. As for all the otehr kits. I hear th assasian is alright. I hear alot of them are pretty good. ------------------ So if in the forest look behind you, because that where the ranger is going to be

08-27-2001, 05:27 AM	#4
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Sorcerers are generally 'harder' to play than Mages. However, with a carefully thought out, pre-defined spell list, it is usually more powerful than a Mage. The thing about Sorcerers is, they can cast more spells than Mages, and in terms of raw firepower, they simply overwhelm the Mage. This becomes more apparent in ToB, where you can have Lvl 10 spells. For Mages, you have to sarcrifice a Lvl 9 spell slot to cast a Lvl 10 spell. For Sorcerers, you need not to. Six Dragon's Breaths... drooool... ... Of course, Sorcerers do have disadvantages, the main one being the restricted spell list. However, as I mentioned earlier, if you take the time to choose your spells before you make your Sorcerer, you can end up with a really powerful spell caster. Still, Mages have Sorcerers beat, in terms of adaptability and variety. I will not deny that. However, my Sorcerer can handle most situations without the need to change spells and rest. Think about it too, how many different types of spells do you have per spell level? A Sorcerer can have five spells per level, which is more than enough for most vital spells. Especially for Lvl 1 where I actually have the luxury to choose 'lousy' spells Maybe for Lvl 6 and Lvl 7, you may have a hard time choosing, which brings us to the next question we magic-users must ask ourselves. How often do you use that spell? I won't say Sorcerers beat Mages in every department, but really, they far from suck. With proper planning, they can easily be one of the best spell-casters in the game. PS: Some choose Mages because they want to be able to earn Xp from reading scrolls. Trust me, there's more than enough in the game to make this a moot point except for Dual-class characters. ------------------ If not a Sorcerer, then a Paladin. ------------------------- Baldur's Gate Item Mart

08-27-2001, 10:26 AM	#5
Mack_Attack Osiris - Egyptian God of the Underworld Join Date: May 22, 2001 Location: Sherwoodpark,Alberta,Canada Age: 51 Posts: 2,929	Barbarian suck I am not to sure they suck. I am trying this kit out and kind of like it. They get to move faster, more hp, all the slashing and fighting reistance, and also get the rage thing which protects from level drain. And it is no big deal you can not get plate armor. Just grab dragon scale.

08-27-2001, 01:31 PM	#6
Zoltan Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: Waterdeep Age: 43 Posts: 1,222	WHat about Jester is it a good Kit? As I know Bard song does not improve it has only confusing song. so it can be useless to confuse resistent creatures right? blade kit looks fine

08-27-2001, 01:34 PM	#7
HooC The Magister Join Date: August 19, 2001 Posts: 127	Kensai is very deadly. Make him an elf with Dexterity 19 and give him some armor reducing goodies and voila.. You have a slayer

08-27-2001, 03:26 PM	#8
dimon37 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: March 26, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 349	I think all classes and kits offer something unique or at least a little different. Barbarian is not a kit, it's a different class all together. I like them a lot, espesially immunity to backstab

08-27-2001, 03:38 PM	#9
DEADMAN Manshoon Join Date: August 22, 2001 Location: Garden Grove CA Posts: 151	The kits for clerics are nice, since you gain abilities without losing anything.

08-27-2001, 05:08 PM	#10
Nolek Psyphon Dungeon Master Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: The In-Between Place Posts: 69	Don't forget about the Swashbuckler. With two weapon style you can become a strong fighter with the added bonus of thieving abilities.

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