Of Paladins and the little Gnomes

Ultra Marine · 01-14-2006, 08:34 PM

I like the little gnomes. They have that nice helm which gives them better AC than paladins. My gnomes are always in front tanking. Does yours work the same? Or most of you put paladins in the front?

Dundee Slaytern · 01-14-2006, 09:35 PM

Paladin can get better AC than Gnomes equipped with the Helm of the Defender. Not to mention immunities, saving throws, etc...

Tanking is more than just AC.

[ 01-14-2006, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Klorox · 01-14-2006, 11:24 PM

Gnomes and Paladins both make good tanks. And tanks are what excel in this game.

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Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Tanking is more than just AC.

Definitely. I even take it as far as wearing regular, unenchanted platemail armor instead of the better AC version so I can add an item that boosts Saving Throws. Well, most of the time anyway. Sometimes there are good bonuses other than AC that will sway me to equip the armor (I have an armor now that grants fear/emotion immunity).

[ 01-14-2006, 11:25 PM: Message edited by: Klorox ]

Aerich · 01-15-2006, 12:27 AM

If I don't take a paladin, my tank is often a gnome (otherwise a dwarf). Gnomes are good; very much a "sleeper" race in this game.

IMO, you want one "damage soak" tank with good saves and amazing AC and/or resistances. Any other melee characters should be offensive in nature, built for decent defence and excellent offence, whose role is to step in and deal damage after the paladin (or summoned creature) is targeted in the first round of a fight.

Don't forget, only a fighter or cleric gnome (or halfling) can use the helm. An Illusionist/Thief is out of luck on that score, and shouldn't be tanking anyway.

Ultra Marine · 01-15-2006, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Paladin can get better AC than Gnomes equipped with the Helm of the Defender. Not to mention immunities, saving throws, etc...

Tanking is more than just AC.

How can the Paladin get better AC? I must have missed an enchanted helm then.

Kyrvias · 01-15-2006, 02:22 AM

You could use DaleKeeper to make a Gnome Paladin... but that would be considered cheating [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ultra Marine · 01-15-2006, 03:20 AM

Gnome Paladin ...hmmmm... too short. I never heard of a gnome paladin. Elf paladin maybe.

Klorox · 01-15-2006, 05:58 AM

Ultra Marine: I think Paladins get pegged into the Tank role because of the "Protection from Evil" ability they have innately, which lasts a really long time. The higher saving throws are great too.

Dundee Slaytern · 01-15-2006, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ultra Marine:

quote:
Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Paladin can get better AC than Gnomes equipped with the Helm of the Defender. Not to mention immunities, saving throws, etc...

Tanking is more than just AC.

How can the Paladin get better AC? I must have missed an enchanted helm then. [/QUOTE]Spells.

Kyrvias · 01-15-2006, 02:08 PM

Have your paladin use his/her innate Protection from Evil spell, cast the wizard variant on him/her, then cast the clerical version. That's a total of 6 to your ac score! Not to mention the other bonuses.

01-15-2006, 12:27 AM	#4
Aerich Lord Ao Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: Canada Age: 42 Posts: 2,061	If I don't take a paladin, my tank is often a gnome (otherwise a dwarf). Gnomes are good; very much a "sleeper" race in this game. IMO, you want one "damage soak" tank with good saves and amazing AC and/or resistances. Any other melee characters should be offensive in nature, built for decent defence and excellent offence, whose role is to step in and deal damage after the paladin (or summoned creature) is targeted in the first round of a fight. Don't forget, only a fighter or cleric gnome (or halfling) can use the helm. An Illusionist/Thief is out of luck on that score, and shouldn't be tanking anyway. __________________ Where there is a great deal of free speech, there is always a certain amount of foolish speech. - Winston S. Churchill

01-15-2006, 05:58 AM	#8
Klorox Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 21, 2004 Location: USA Age: 48 Posts: 1,168	Ultra Marine: I think Paladins get pegged into the Tank role because of the "Protection from Evil" ability they have innately, which lasts a really long time. The higher saving throws are great too. __________________ Baruk Khazad! Khazad ai-mênu! "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."-- Edmund Burke

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01-14-2006, 08:34 PM	#1
Ultra Marine The Magister Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: Australia Age: 52 Posts: 131	I like the little gnomes. They have that nice helm which gives them better AC than paladins. My gnomes are always in front tanking. Does yours work the same? Or most of you put paladins in the front?

01-14-2006, 09:35 PM	#2
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Paladin can get better AC than Gnomes equipped with the Helm of the Defender. Not to mention immunities, saving throws, etc... Tanking is more than just AC. [ 01-14-2006, 09:35 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

01-15-2006, 02:22 AM	#6
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	You could use DaleKeeper to make a Gnome Paladin... but that would be considered cheating [img]tongue.gif[/img]

01-15-2006, 03:20 AM	#7
Ultra Marine The Magister Join Date: December 27, 2005 Location: Australia Age: 52 Posts: 131	Gnome Paladin ...hmmmm... too short. I never heard of a gnome paladin. Elf paladin maybe.

01-15-2006, 02:08 PM	#10
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	Have your paladin use his/her innate Protection from Evil spell, cast the wizard variant on him/her, then cast the clerical version. That's a total of 6 to your ac score! Not to mention the other bonuses.

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