New Shadow Keeper

Haldir · 09-30-2003, 11:14 AM

I finally got the Shadow Keeper, but I don't like it. First reason is that it helps too much, and I mean too much! And the seacond reason is that you don't get other kits, but the kits for original BGII:SoA. IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY TO GET ADDITIONAL KITS (I WOULD LIKE THEM FOR TDD)

HELP!

Tyrion · 09-30-2003, 11:30 AM

haldir, what exactly do you mean with it helping too much...

Armen · 09-30-2003, 11:51 AM

to misquote the NRA "Shadow Keeper doesn't kill game balance. People kill game balance"

Faceman · 09-30-2003, 12:40 PM

Shadowkeeper is a great tool for the folowing reasons:

It allows you the customizing of all party characters in a way the gfame never does (that includes sounds, colors, special abilities, disadvantages,...) and therefore adds an enhanced roleplay feeling
Item, Creature and Spell Browser are the best resource for the things that are actually in your game (e.g. modded) and are convenient to handle with the filters. It has helped me more than once in debugging a game
You can easily look up several Global variables without having to type several lines in the CLUAConsole

.
If you (ab)use this great tool for cheating it will ruin game balance but so will the CLUAConsole or extreme powergaming. Nobody forces you to cheat and if you do the only one harmed is you. So use it wisely and it will enhance your game instead of trashing it [img]smile.gif[/img]

Haldir · 09-30-2003, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrion:
haldir, what exactly do you mean with it helping too much...

I wanted to say that:can you tell me if I can get some kind of upgrade for Shadow keeper, that would get me new kits...

NOW HELP PLEASE

Timber Loftis · 09-30-2003, 02:32 PM

I really like ShadowKeeper, GateKeeper, etc. I have been able to debug broken romances and do other things that saved me from going way back. Some romances are really tricky, and this can help you get past a glitch in the romance. You can also customize lots of cool stuff.

Laid down that RoP +2 accidently somewhere in greater Athlatka? Don't tear your hair out, go on a killing spree, or reload. SK it.

Look, as I used to tell my gamers, Roleplaying is pretending with rules. If you're going to cheat, well, just go sit in a corner and pretend instead.

Xen · 09-30-2003, 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by Haldir:

quote:
Originally posted by Tyrion:
haldir, what exactly do you mean with it helping too much...

I wanted to say that:can you tell me if I can get some kind of upgrade for Shadow keeper, that would get me new kits...

NOW HELP PLEASE [/QUOTE]Haldir! I don`t want to be a smartass but IMHO writing "NOW HELP PLEASE" with all caps sounds a *little* rude...

Haldir · 09-30-2003, 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Xen:

quote:
Originally posted by Haldir:

quote:
Originally posted by Tyrion:
haldir, what exactly do you mean with it helping too much...

I wanted to say that:can you tell me if I can get some kind of upgrade for Shadow keeper, that would get me new kits...

NOW HELP PLEASE [/QUOTE]Haldir! I don`t want to be a smartass but IMHO writing "NOW HELP PLEASE" with all caps sounds a *little* rude... [/QUOTE]I was a bit angry...

Raistlin Majere · 09-30-2003, 03:54 PM

well, to give you an answer, there is no upgrade for SK(atleast not to my knowledge), and even if there were, i doubt it would allow you to meddle with mods...

SixOfSpades · 09-30-2003, 04:04 PM

The new kits added as part of The Darkest Day are just that: They're new, and they're part of The Darkest Day. They are not part of the original game itself, and therefore Shadowkeeper cannot access them, because it can only access whatever is already on your computer. There is no way to get the TDD kits without actually installing TDD.

09-30-2003, 11:14 AM	#1
Haldir Manshoon Join Date: March 15, 2003 Location: Green piece of Europe-Slovenia-Ljubljana Age: 36 Posts: 179	I finally got the Shadow Keeper, but I don't like it. First reason is that it helps too much, and I mean too much! And the seacond reason is that you don't get other kits, but the kits for original BGII:SoA. IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY TO GET ADDITIONAL KITS (I WOULD LIKE THEM FOR TDD) HELP! __________________ Medicus curat, natura sanat!

09-30-2003, 11:30 AM	#2
Tyrion Quintesson Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: straight outta Kålltorp Age: 37 Posts: 1,081	haldir, what exactly do you mean with it helping too much... __________________ ...with the Bible and the Uzi as weapons

09-30-2003, 12:40 PM	#4
Faceman Hathor Join Date: February 18, 2002 Location: Vienna Age: 42 Posts: 2,248	Shadowkeeper is a great tool for the folowing reasons: It allows you the customizing of all party characters in a way the gfame never does (that includes sounds, colors, special abilities, disadvantages,...) and therefore adds an enhanced roleplay feeling Item, Creature and Spell Browser are the best resource for the things that are actually in your game (e.g. modded) and are convenient to handle with the filters. It has helped me more than once in debugging a game You can easily look up several Global variables without having to type several lines in the CLUAConsole . If you (ab)use this great tool for cheating it will ruin game balance but so will the CLUAConsole or extreme powergaming. Nobody forces you to cheat and if you do the only one harmed is you. So use it wisely and it will enhance your game instead of trashing it [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ \"I am forever spellbound by the frailty of life\"<br /><br /> Faceman

09-30-2003, 02:32 PM	#6
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	I really like ShadowKeeper, GateKeeper, etc. I have been able to debug broken romances and do other things that saved me from going way back. Some romances are really tricky, and this can help you get past a glitch in the romance. You can also customize lots of cool stuff. Laid down that RoP +2 accidently somewhere in greater Athlatka? Don't tear your hair out, go on a killing spree, or reload. SK it. Look, as I used to tell my gamers, Roleplaying is pretending with rules. If you're going to cheat, well, just go sit in a corner and pretend instead. __________________

09-30-2003, 03:54 PM	#9
Raistlin Majere Ra Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: Finland Age: 36 Posts: 2,323	well, to give you an answer, there is no upgrade for SK(atleast not to my knowledge), and even if there were, i doubt it would allow you to meddle with mods... __________________ If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst forth at once in the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One. "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

09-30-2003, 11:51 AM	#3
Armen Symbol of Cyric Join Date: February 11, 2003 Location: UK Age: 54 Posts: 1,375	to misquote the NRA "Shadow Keeper doesn't kill game balance. People kill game balance"

09-30-2003, 04:04 PM	#10
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	The new kits added as part of The Darkest Day are just that: They're new, and they're part of The Darkest Day. They are not part of the original game itself, and therefore Shadowkeeper cannot access them, because it can only access whatever is already on your computer. There is no way to get the TDD kits without actually installing TDD. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

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