Two Towers-what did you think?

[canadianvixen]

Possible spoiler

I went to the midnight showing Tuesday night/Wednesday morning LB and I think I was one of the few who didn't dress up. I loved Smeagal in this one. I just have one puzzling question. Why did Faramir take Frodo to Gondor? What's the point in that?

[Cerek the Barbaric]

My excitement began with the very first sequence. A battle that the reader knew took place, but that Tolkien never wrote about (other than the general reference Gandalf gives Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas in Fangorn).

Visual effects were positively stunning (as with the first one).

It's been a loooooong time since I actually read the books, but (IIRC), Faramir DID capture Frodo and Sam and take them to Osgiliath, where he discovered they had the Ring of Power...and he was going to take that to Gondor to use against Sauron. I distinctly remember the scene from the book with Gollum diving in the pool after fish and Faramir waiting to give the signal to kill him.

NO SHELOB - Wellllll, no Shelob YET is more accurate. That will be one of the earlier scenes in Return of the King (who did you think Gollum was referring to when he said "SHE could do it". THAT is a scene I do NOT want to miss).

Also, the Return of the King is quite a bit shorter than the others. Frodo and Sam encounter Shelob and have a few other tangent adventures before setting resolutely towards Mt. Doom. Meanwhile, the big storyline for the rest of the cast is the Battle of Gondor and the great climactice Battle of Five Armies...so there really isn't that much more to add in.

The Ents and the attack on Isengard were fantastic (although I expected Treebeard to be somewhat BROADER...oh well, it was still awesome).

Battle of Helm's Deep - simply incredible. I don't remember the elves joining the battle, but it has been a long time since I read the books. I was a little disappointed in the "creative license" of having Legolas go "boarding" down the stairs while firing arrows at the Uruk-hai...but it was a cool visual.

I won't be seeing it again, because it is only here for two days ( [img]graemlins/verysad.gif[/img] ) and there is no way I could make it to either of the last two shows even if I wanted to. That's ok, though....the DVD will be here soon enough.

[Ar-Cunin]

Well I missed the Huorns at Helm's Deep - that would have been truly awesome [img]graemlins/firedevil.gif[/img]

The reat of the point of 'creative licenses' have been covered.

Still - I is a great film [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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[Sir Taliesin]

Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric: It's been a loooooong time since I actually read the books, but (IIRC), Faramir DID capture Frodo and Sam and take them to Osgiliath, where he discovered they had the Ring of Power...and he was going to take that to Gondor to use against Sauron. I distinctly remember the scene from the book with Gollum diving in the pool after fish and Faramir waiting to give the signal to kill him.

I thought he took them to Cair Andros, an Island on the River Anduin and northeast of Minas Tirith. I am sure he didn't take them to Osgiliath. Later in the Return of the King he fought a rear guard action at Osigilith at the Causeway and across the Pellenor Fields, where he was struck down by a poisoned Southron arrow.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I will this weekend!

[pritchke]

I enjoyed it even though the movie cut off three times. They gave everyone at the end a free coupon to see it again. Yipee!!

OK, I enjoyed it but it was not as good as felloship of the rings. Way to many plots lines going on and there is no real ending. What did you expect it is the middle of a very long film? we get to see the end next year 2003. If you have not seen the first one do not go because you will be lost, confused, and your little brain will be doing way to much thinking.

The good points:
1. Gollum - funny, sad, depending on how you wish to look at him.
2. Gimli - very funny in battle scenes, my favorite part of the whole film
3. Battle scenes well done
4. Ents, worgs, creatures were also well done.
5, music and backgrounds were as awsome as the first.

4.5 out of 5 stars.

if you haven't seen the first one you will probaly hate it.

My favorite line.
Gimli "Toss me, but don't tell the elf!"

[ 12-19-2002, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

[arion windrider]

i loved the movie.. as it was cut short of a few things was cool, that means we have more to look forward to when return of the king comes out next year... i got to see it right after my 3rd shift on wednesday morning, waited for two hours to get tickets and still get a good seat... im going again today with my bro in law soon as he gets off of work [img]smile.gif[/img] I CANT WAIT TO SEE IT AGAIN

[Lifetime]

Wayy too many plot lines going, and still no successful resolution of any of them cept maybe the Frodo and Sam one..
Those segments of the film were some of the most true-to-book ones, and they were pretty damn stunning in their own right (Faramir's ambush of the Mordor Column for example.. a hugely cool scene that I expect will go unnoticed compared to Helm's Deep). I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the Pools of the Dead yet.. those were some of the creepiest/scariest scenes I've ever seen.. I really love that bit. Positively awesome effects.
Too many details left out, much much more than in Fellowship of the Ring because of the separate storylines, such as Gandalf's relationship with Shadowfax, and his dealings with Theoden etc etc.
I'm actually pretty happy they threw in the bit about Gimli and Legolas keeping score at Helm's Deep, and the last march of the Ents/charge of the Rohirrim had me floored. I loved this one a huge load more than Fellowship, pretty much only because I get the movie, and I fill in the plot gaps in my head, leaving me to just enjoy the really good bits of the film. For anyone else who doesnt have a clue.. well lets just say it aint going to win any Oscars..
If they've done this well for the second film, I cant wait to see what happens in the third. And the only bit I didnt expect was Arwen's departure to Valinor.. she doesnt DO that! I think like the scouring of the shire, that little bit you get where Elrond fortells the future is all you get of Arwen and Aragorn's future after Sauron is defeated..
And something I REALLY didnt expect was Haldir dying at Helm's Deep. I didnt even know he WAS at Helm's Deep..

[Cerek the Barbaric]

Originally posted by Sir Taliesin: I thought he took them to Cair Andros, an Island on the River Anduin and northeast of Minas Tirith. I am sure he didn't take them to Osgiliath. Later in the Return of the King he fought a rear guard action at Osigilith at the Causeway and across the Pellenor Fields, where he was struck down by a poisoned Southron arrow. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I will this weekend!

I stand corrected, Sir Taliesin. I knew that Faramir had taken them somewhere, but I couldn't remember where. Like I said, it has been very many years since I read the book (many of our members here weren't even born yet - if that gives you a clue) and all those location names started running together anyway.

I've never been really good at "visualizing" landscape scenes from a book....I guess that's one reason I enjoy the movies so much. Some of the events make MUCH more sense when I have a "live" image of the surrounding geography (Never could figure out exactly what the Plains of Rohan looked like for some reason).

Anyway, even with a few "creative licenses", this movie still ROCKS THE TOP OFF!

LOTR will probably go down as the all time BEST movie series in my book.

[Attalus]

I haven't seen it yet.

But, I will next weekend.

I haven't had time to go see it yet so a plague of locusts in all yer drawers for talking about it here heheeh Im not reading anything any of you say!