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Old 06-29-2004, 09:30 PM   #21
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There's been nearly 1,000,000 killed in the Sudan by Arab militants in the last year or so, and the rest of the world is sitting idly by, and talks about talking to the militants, you know trying to reason with and UNDERSTAND their position. Is 1,000,000 dead enough justification? I see a lot of outrage over prehaps 100,000 killed in Iraq durring the War. We have 10 times that many killed while the world (UN) sits on it's rear-end and comtemplates it's navel.
Did they discover oil in the Sudan overnight and nobody told me? [/QUOTE]That's just it there is no oil and nobody INCLUDING those that oppose the war is Iraq,(in other words those people that said the war was for Oil) is doing a damn thing (except trying to look cute by mentioning OIL). Here is the chance to Show what wonderful people they are and how they do things for the right reason, not the wrong reason *cough*OIL*cough*. But they sure as "Hale" won't be getting off their rear-ends and do much more then talk about talking about it. Meanwhile more people die BECAUSE of their Inaction and talk.
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Old 06-30-2004, 09:58 AM   #22
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According to these people nearly 2,000,000 have been killed in the Sundanese civil war. The current crisis in the region of Darfur is "Distinct",as in sererate, from the North-South civil war.

http://www.careusa.org/newsroom/feat...ource=overture


According to these people it's 30,000 dead in the region of Darfur and "without humanitarian intervention as many as a million people could die."

http://www.ajws.org/index.cfm?section_id=8
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Old 06-30-2004, 10:00 AM   #23
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There's been nearly 1,000,000 killed in the Sudan by Arab militants in the last year or so, and the rest of the world is sitting idly by, and talks about talking to the militants, you know trying to reason with and UNDERSTAND their position. Is 1,000,000 dead enough justification? I see a lot of outrage over prehaps 100,000 killed in Iraq durring the War. We have 10 times that many killed while the world (UN) sits on it's rear-end and comtemplates it's navel.
Did they discover oil in the Sudan overnight and nobody told me? [/QUOTE]That's just it there is no oil and nobody INCLUDING those that oppose the war is Iraq,(in other words those people that said the war was for Oil) is doing a damn thing (except trying to look cute by mentioning OIL). Here is the chance to Show what wonderful people they are and how they do things for the right reason, not the wrong reason *cough*OIL*cough*. But they sure as "Hale" won't be getting off their rear-ends and do much more then talk about talking about it. Meanwhile more people die BECAUSE of their Inaction and talk. [/QUOTE]That's funny to me it is the pro-iraq war people that should be out there agitating for intervention in the Sudan. To prove that Iraq was not about oil. You have a funny way of twisting things John.
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Old 06-30-2004, 10:59 AM   #24
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Magik,
could this be the mustard gas you heard about?

Mustard Agent Alarm Continues To Ring At APG

POSTED: 6:08 am EDT June 29, 2004
UPDATED: 6:47 am EDT June 29, 2004

ABERDEEN, Md. -- The search continues for a mustard gas leak at Aberdeen Proving Ground.

Officials now say it's a vapor leak, not a liquid one. In order to find the source, they will drape plastic over the container stacks and put monitors underneath.

The process could take some time. The alarm signaling a chemical leak started going off last Wednesday.

Mustard agent is a lethal carcinogen that blisters the eyes, skin, and lungs.
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Old 06-30-2004, 11:04 AM   #25
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If you want to shift topics then JD then by all means do. I will stick with my original comments which say that I am hoping that if WOMD are found somewhere then it is by inspection rather than a massacre of usage. While some people look forward to "feeling right" with either, I am not one of those that favour, look forward to, or will gloat if the "discovery" involves the death of another couple of hundered people. That is why I took a shot at the offending post - because the comments were crass.

I would prefer they not be found at all if the other choice was to have the terrorists use them.
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That's funny to me it is the pro-iraq war people that should be out there agitating for intervention in the Sudan. To prove that Iraq was not about oil. You have a funny way of twisting things John.

So basicly you are saying...one country should do everything while the rest just sit on their...hands? I think you are wrong. We took steps but we don't have to take them all. It is ABOUT time others on the other Continents started doing something instead of bitching at the US to do it all and to do nothing all at the same time.....fair is fair. (I am of course excepting the nations that did help with Iraq)


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Old 06-30-2004, 11:26 AM   #27
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That's funny to me it is the pro-iraq war people that should be out there agitating for intervention in the Sudan. To prove that Iraq was not about oil. You have a funny way of twisting things John.

So basicly you are saying...one country should do everything while the rest just sit on their...hands? I think you are wrong. We took steps but we don't have to take them all. It is ABOUT time others on the other Continents started doing something instead of bitching at the US to do it all and to do nothing all at the same time.....fair is fair. (I am of course excepting the nations that did help with Iraq)
[/QUOTE]But Magik that is not what John is driving at in his constant attempts to 'score points' ove the Sudan issue. He has dragged atleast two threads off-topic now by injecting this. And in both cases he seems to feel it is the the duty of those of us that opposed the invasion of Iraq to now support an Invasion of Sudan. I just do not see his logic.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:28 PM   #28
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That's funny to me it is the pro-iraq war people that should be out there agitating for intervention in the Sudan. To prove that Iraq was not about oil. You have a funny way of twisting things John.
1)Why the "Hale" is that funny? After All I have clearly stated on many occassions that we should have gone into Iraq because Sodamn Insane needed His rear-end Kicked, He is a worthless sack of Horse manure who killed many innocent people, and I have also advocated that we should do the same all over the world. So I am and have BEEN completely consistant no twisting no turning or spinning in the winds of public opinion. I'm not the one saying it was for OIL I don't care if it was for OIL, I don't care is it was for WoMD's. I've not claimed I support the war for either of those reasons. I've claimed that President Bush said WoMD's was ONE of the reasons amoung many other reasons, and given the logic that was appearently used to come to that conclution. I have asked for those that state it was for OIL to back that up with proof not suppositions and accusations. I sure as "Hale" am not going to complain if I see something being done that I beleive to be right, coulda, sorta, mighta, Kinda be for the wrong reason. I care about It being done. I sure as Feces stinks wouldn't want to stake out the position that because something wasn't being done for the reason I believe to be right, let's not do it until the Right reason comes along. And sit idly by while innocent people are INTENTIONALY killed. If anybody wants to stake out that position, go ahead be my guest, I'm not going to face God with that on my conscience.

2)Why in the "Hale" should you find it funny? After all I'm a warmongering, hate-filled, bigoted, Christian Southern Conservative Republican. That wants to poison the air and water, kill every living thing on this planet including my wife, children, grand children even my 16 year old black lab, in order for me to continue to drive my gas guzzling global warming vehicle, who enjoys watching people starve, steals candy from babies, ties dammsels in disress to railraod tracks, kicks orphans out into the cold so they freeze to death, and pays children in 3rd world countries pennies per year. All so the companies I own stock in can have higher profits and I make money.

Edit: I've been known to twist my mustash and laugh with glee as I kick old widows from their 1 room shacks, and force young widows to perform perverted sexual favors in order to stay in their shacks.

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Old 06-30-2004, 01:45 PM   #29
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That's funny to me it is the pro-iraq war people that should be out there agitating for intervention in the Sudan. To prove that Iraq was not about oil. You have a funny way of twisting things John.

So basicly you are saying...one country should do everything while the rest just sit on their...hands? I think you are wrong. We took steps but we don't have to take them all. It is ABOUT time others on the other Continents started doing something instead of bitching at the US to do it all and to do nothing all at the same time.....fair is fair. (I am of course excepting the nations that did help with Iraq)
[/QUOTE]But Magik that is not what John is driving at in his constant attempts to 'score points' ove the Sudan issue. He has dragged atleast two threads off-topic now by injecting this. And in both cases he seems to feel it is the the duty of those of us that opposed the invasion of Iraq to now support an Invasion of Sudan. I just do not see his logic.
[/QUOTE]You are Wrong Rokenn, MagiK is completly correct, Since I am the one making the point I get to be the one that says why I'm making the Point. Unless somebody is claiming they have the powers to read minds and decide why others are doing things. I have no problem with that , but they had better be ready to back that position up with some examples of their powers.
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Old 06-30-2004, 01:47 PM   #30
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That's funny to me it is the pro-iraq war people that should be out there agitating for intervention in the Sudan. To prove that Iraq was not about oil. You have a funny way of twisting things John.

So basicly you are saying...one country should do everything while the rest just sit on their...hands? I think you are wrong. We took steps but we don't have to take them all. It is ABOUT time others on the other Continents started doing something instead of bitching at the US to do it all and to do nothing all at the same time.....fair is fair. (I am of course excepting the nations that did help with Iraq)
[/QUOTE]But Magik that is not what John is driving at in his constant attempts to 'score points' ove the Sudan issue. He has dragged atleast two threads off-topic now by injecting this. And in both cases he seems to feel it is the the duty of those of us that opposed the invasion of Iraq to now support an Invasion of Sudan. I just do not see his logic.
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Ooops...sorry my mistake, didn't see where you were going...guess I should let J.D. handle a response to that.

Edit: and apparently he did.


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