Disney Forbidding Distribution of Film That Criticizes Bush

[Chewbacca]

Gab,

According to some I am a consumate liberal. That is only half-true. For example, I am pro-choice, support affirmative action, and oppose the death penalty.

On the conservative tip I also believe in shrinking government spending (and cutting personal taxes) and drastically curtailing encrouchment into the lives of private citizens. We can begin by ending the expensive and unsuccessful drug war and reducing our 'costly to maintain' nuclear arsenal by 75% with the eventual goal of total worldwide disarmament. I beleive that deficits are bad and balanced budgets are the way to go.

On the liberal tip I think that corporations should bear a heavier tax burden and should recieve the strongest penalties for enviromental transgressions.

And-so-on-and--so-on-doobie-doobie-doo-whah....

In general I think the terms liberal and conservatives are typically used as giant red herrings. They are often labels used to distract away from addressing real issues in a meaningful way.

My blantantly obvious (as well as duly noted) sarcasm was designed to adress this point. I would perhaps find it more offensive (or rather distasteful) that someone would go totally off-topic to attack the mythic liberal love of big-guvernment rather than address the implied political pressure being brought to bear upon a media conglomerate by the so-called "conservative" majority party currently in power.

The same converative party that currently rules the Federal Censorship Commission (A.K.A the F.C.C.) The same conservatives that have increased government spending more than %10 since becoming the majority in the leglislative branch and controling the executive branch. The same conservatives that have expanded the drug war and spend billions to fight adult entertainment. I could go on and on about how ridulous these so-called conservatives are throwing our money away and infringing on our liberties. I have not even touched upon how they are pushing their veiws of religion into government in ways that smacks of theocracy.

Bottom-line, many liberals arent that liberal at all and many conservatives are really fakes- theocrats and/or authoritarions in diguise. Both sides have those who would or do push extreme agendas that serve their vested interests and have no need to find the middle ground.

So you'll just have to over-look my sarcastic little rant hinting at a final solution for the liberal problem. The irony of liberals being invoked in this issue threw me into sarcasm overload.

[Gnarf]

Originally posted by Gab: Terrible move!! Just like they did with images with flag drapped coffin. What's going to be censored next?! Chewie, do you relize how offense that statement was, even though you weren't serious. How would you feel if I said kill the conservatives for supporting this shitty president.

How 'bout we... censor everything offensive? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Oblivion437]

One thing you have to understand is, Moore's criticism of Bush, especially for being connected to the Bin Laden family, whether they were or not, is likely going to be the same one-sided reporting, biased representation and paranoid assumptions that comprised his previous film. The results promise to be VERY ugly, and I can't blame Disney for not wanting to release, also in lieu of their connections to the G-Monster, which means they're forced to think of the government as well. Besides, this is Disney we're talking about! This isn't just any studio, and Miramax should have known better... To think that these same people backed Gangs of New York...

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

Originally posted by Chewbacca: Blame the liberals!!! They should all be dragged out into the street shot! No real American wants everyone to be clothed, housed, fed, and to have healthcare regardless of economic conditon. Kill them all, starting with Mr. Moore, for his audacious film full of critisim of our beloved leader, Bush, the first president ordained and guided by God personally. Death to the liberals! (Though I am unsure what liberals have to do with a major entertainment conglomerate practicing what basically amounts to political censorship) (This post is chocked full of sarcasm- in case you can't tell)

Was this quote lifted word for word from an Anne Coulter book or speech? Because it sounds a LOT like her.

[Khazadman Risen]

What's the big deal? Disney just said they will not distribute the movie. Thay didn't say Moore could find someone else to release his latest hunk of shit.

[wellard]

LOL i hear a lot of squealing' like stuck pigs going on here

Awwwww shucks guys, I’m sure the government will be able to handle the truth because they have nothing to hide (have they?). And if Moore is lying in his film the mainstream press will destroy it in 5 minutes flat [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

So what’s the problem? If you don’t like the film just switch the TV over to fox news. If you don’t want to read his book read the comic strips instead. Why do the paranoid hate freedom of speech or expression so much? They go on and on about freedom of rights but if a train of thought goes against their beliefs they don’t blink when big business try’s to shut it down! If you feel that the film is misleading, watch it first for yourself then use the free press to ridicule it! Please don’t use the modern day method equivalent to stoning the producer and burning his medium

[wellard]

Oh and welcome back to Ironworks Khazadman [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

[Rokenn]

Looks like both Lion's Gate and Sony Classic is interested in picking the film up-
From IMDB:

Uproar Over 'Fahrenheit 9/11' Heats Up

Controversy is again swirling around provocative documentary filmmaker Michael Moore (Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine) following Miramax's announcement on Wednesday that it will not be distributing Moore's latest film, Fahrenheit 9/11. Earlier, the Walt Disney Co. said that it would prevent Miramax, which it owns, from releasing it, even though Miramax had financed it. Zenia Mucha, a spokeswoman for the company (herself a former adviser to New York Republican politicos George Pataki and Alfonse D'Amato), said that "it was not appropriate for Disney ... to be the distributor of a politically charged movie in an election year." Critics immediately pointed out that some of Disney's ABC radio stations present a daily barrage of politically charged programming, generally reflecting conservative opinion. "All I can say is, thank God for [Miramax Co-chairman] Harvey Weinstein, who stood by me during the entire production of this movie," Moore said in a statement posted on his website on Wednesday. The film is due to compete at the Cannes Film Festival next week for the festival's Palme d'Or award. Michael Barker, co-president of Sony Pictures Classics, which released the controversial Oscar-winning The Fog of War, told today's (Thursday) San Francisco Chronicle that he expects to see Moore's picture at Cannes and that he might be interested in distributing it "if Miramax pitches it to us and it's anything like The Fog of War." Likewise a Lions Gate spokesman told the Toronto Star that his company would also consider releasing the film, adding: "We tend not to be frightened off the controversial projects." Ironically, the title of Moore's film derives from the 1953 Ray Bradbury sci-fi novel Fahrenheit 451 about a society that burns controversial books, forcing a group of dissidents to memorize the classics in order to preserve them. The ads for Fahrenheit 9/11 bear the tagline: "The Temperature Where Freedom Burns."

[Night Stalker]

Rokken! I love your new sig! And it's from a REAL War President!

[Rokenn]

Originally posted by Night Stalker: Rokken! I love your new sig! And it's from a REAL War President!

Thanks! Yeah it is sad to see how far the Republican Party had devolved in 90 years.

some fun Teddy facts-
He was famous for being anti racist.

When he was police chief of New York City an anti-semitic high German official was visiting New York, he made sure that the entire police detail who would protect the German were Jewish.

He is the youngest man ever to serve as President (at the time he took office).

He is the first U.S. President to be awarded a Nobel Peace Prize.

He is the first President to fly in a plane, ride in a car, submerge in submarine and visit a foreign country during his Presidency.

He started work on the Panama Canal.

He was a strong environmentalist.

He liked children so much, that many times he was found playing with kids in the White House.

The Teddy Bear was named in his honor.

[ 05-07-2004, 11:39 AM: Message edited by: Rokenn ]