Too much Hp - Page 2

ozzi · 07-28-2003, 08:47 AM

I always max my con so that I start with 91 in HP. Someone said that they had 76 in HP. Thats on Core rules.

Klutz · 07-28-2003, 12:01 PM

Hmmm. Never heard of the PC 10% HP bonus.

Level 7 Fighter (7D10 hit dice), 18 con (Human, +4 HP/HD) = 14 * 7 = 98HP.
Level 7 Fighter (7D10 hit dice), 17 con (Elf, +3 HP/HD) = 13 * 7 = 91HP.
Level 7 Fighter (7D10 hit dice), 19 con (Half-Orc, Dwarf, +5 HP/HD) = 15 * 7 = 105HP.
Level 7 Barbarian (7D12 hit dice), 19 con (Half-Orc, Dwarf, +5 HP/HD) = 17 * 7 = 119HP.

Find Familiar spell grants a HP bonus equal to half your familiar's total hit points (usually +12, for a 24HP familiar, and I think they all have 24HP). Of non-Mage classes, only Beastmasters can legally get this bonus. (Xen, you naughty boy, did you use the potion-swap exploit?)

Not sure how you could get 101HP on Core rules. An Elven Beastmaster with 17 con on core rules would have 103HP after casting Find Familiar... that's the closest I can come up with that would work on Core Rules. And you'd still start with 91HP; you don't get that bonus till you actually summon your familiar.

Bloodtitan · 07-29-2003, 02:51 AM

thx Klutz for that math exmaple.
as you can see a halforc barb gets +12 HP ... one more lvlup without CON as i said and he has 131.
same for elven warrior ... 91 + 10 = 101
Jim : 108 is 7*10+28 +10.

Jim · 07-30-2003, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Bloodtitan:
thx Klutz for that math exmaple.
as you can see a halforc barb gets +12 HP ... one more lvlup without CON as i said and he has 131.
same for elven warrior ... 91 + 10 = 101
Jim : 108 is 7*10+28 +10.

Great Scott! Bloodtitan is right!

I've always assumed it's +10% because that's basically what it is provided you maximise your CON score (which I always do):

Barbarian, 19 CON = 131 starting HP, (should be 119, 119*1.1 =~ 131 HP)
Fighter, 18 CON = 108 starting HP, (should be 98, 98*1.1 =~ 108 HP)
Thief, 16 CON = 70 starting HP, (should be 64, 64 *1.1 =~ 70 HP)
Mage, 16 CON = 46 starting HP, (should be 42, 42*1.1 =~ 46 HP)

However, as soon as I started lowering the CON, it became apparent that the HP boost was not 10%, but is as Bloodtitan correctly states, a full Dx of the class, without CON bonus (so +12 for barbarian, +10 for warrior, +8 for priest, +6 for rogue and +4 for mage).

Sorted! Well spotted BT. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 07-30-2003, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: Jim ]

Bloodtitan · 07-30-2003, 01:55 PM

well thx [img]smile.gif[/img]
feel free to build up a Bloodtitan fan club. [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

spydar · 07-30-2003, 02:18 PM

there's such thing as too much hp's??? how come I've never come across this??

Sonic · 07-31-2003, 02:23 PM

You shud be lucky if you get more hp you will need it i say to you you WILL need it.

07-28-2003, 08:47 AM	#11
ozzi Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: June 25, 2003 Location: Norway Age: 37 Posts: 28	I always max my con so that I start with 91 in HP. Someone said that they had 76 in HP. Thats on Core rules. __________________ The Ultimate Pair: Stalker and Swashbuckler

07-28-2003, 12:01 PM	#12
Klutz Manshoon Join Date: November 9, 2002 Location: Houston, TX Age: 51 Posts: 240	Hmmm. Never heard of the PC 10% HP bonus. Level 7 Fighter (7D10 hit dice), 18 con (Human, +4 HP/HD) = 14 * 7 = 98HP. Level 7 Fighter (7D10 hit dice), 17 con (Elf, +3 HP/HD) = 13 * 7 = 91HP. Level 7 Fighter (7D10 hit dice), 19 con (Half-Orc, Dwarf, +5 HP/HD) = 15 * 7 = 105HP. Level 7 Barbarian (7D12 hit dice), 19 con (Half-Orc, Dwarf, +5 HP/HD) = 17 * 7 = 119HP. Find Familiar spell grants a HP bonus equal to half your familiar's total hit points (usually +12, for a 24HP familiar, and I think they all have 24HP). Of non-Mage classes, only Beastmasters can legally get this bonus. (Xen, you naughty boy, did you use the potion-swap exploit?) Not sure how you could get 101HP on Core rules. An Elven Beastmaster with 17 con on core rules would have 103HP after casting Find Familiar... that's the closest I can come up with that would work on Core Rules. And you'd still start with 91HP; you don't get that bonus till you actually summon your familiar. __________________ ->Klutz

07-29-2003, 02:51 AM	#13
Bloodtitan Dungeon Master Join Date: June 11, 2003 Location: germany Age: 45 Posts: 91	thx Klutz for that math exmaple. as you can see a halforc barb gets +12 HP ... one more lvlup without CON as i said and he has 131. same for elven warrior ... 91 + 10 = 101 Jim : 108 is 7*10+28 +10. __________________ i must ask again ... have we met before, nameless one ?

07-30-2003, 01:55 PM	#15
Bloodtitan Dungeon Master Join Date: June 11, 2003 Location: germany Age: 45 Posts: 91	well thx [img]smile.gif[/img] feel free to build up a Bloodtitan fan club. [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] __________________ i must ask again ... have we met before, nameless one ?

07-30-2003, 02:18 PM	#16
spydar Avatar Join Date: March 6, 2003 Location: my parlour Age: 40 Posts: 510	there's such thing as too much hp's??? how come I've never come across this?? __________________ \"One short sleep past, we wake eternally, and Death shall be no more- Death thou shalt die.\" -John Donne

07-31-2003, 02:23 PM	#17
Sonic Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 9, 2003 Location: Amn Age: 34 Posts: 352	You shud be lucky if you get more hp you will need it i say to you you WILL need it. __________________ Never Underestimate Your Enemy.<br /><br />A Normal Dagger in the right hand\'s is as Dangerous as Crom Faeyr.

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