.44 or .50??

[Sir Kenyth]

Originally posted by norompanlasolas: im not going to get in a discussion on guns, firstly because this isnt the thread for it, and secondly because its not worth it. it has striked me as really funny, though, and raised my curiosity, to see how many gun owners and gun "experts" are here on this forum (pretty much everybody above 25 years old i think). being a dungeonsanddragons, a roleplaying forum... one has to wonder if its because of reading a lot of rulebooks, or of actual experience. if it is because of real experience and love for guns, its even more amazing. i never thought so many people loved guns, had guns and shot them regularly. i dunno, maybe its different over here in spain, or i hang out with the wrong group of friends. the only guns i get to see are in hands of the police, and a dreadful sight it is (so you can understand, a lot of my friends are what you would call squatters, or okupas as called here).

I was an NCO in the military, so I have plenty of weapons experience. You must understand that a gun is a dangerous item and it is perfectly normal to be fearful of them. No one in their right mind would like staring down the wrong end of one and even the right end of one is a nasty place to be if it's pointed at someone. That's life though. Life can be a nasty business in rough times. Some people don't realize just how close any civilized country can be to anarchy. How fast you can go from being a secure citizen to a victem. In my lifetime the USSR went from superpower to anarchy, and I'm still a young man! Countless people are killed and maimed every day by all forms of the cruel human animal. Even here in the US! It all seems so far away and unlikely in our current secure lifestyle. For many people every day it's the harshest of realities! One thing is common of all the cruel human animals in this world though. They all prefer their victems unarmed and defenseless. This is the same from the lowliest mugger to the largest oppressive government regime. What makes the US different I ask? One difference is that our forefathers saw the disarming of the populus as the disempowerment of the people! They saw it as a doorway to the exact same thing they had run away from to begin with! We're too civilized you say? It can't happen to us? Why not? Take away our foundations and give it a couple hundred years or so. Things may go a direction you never expected! I see firearm ownership like voting. It's a responsibility that EVERYONE who's a law abiding citizen should take advantage of. Make informed decisions when it comes to giving away your rights people! They may seem trivial now, but your children or grandchilderen may have a hell of a harder time getting them back once they're gone and they need them!

Hey! How'd I get up on this soapbox?

[MILAMBER]

I'm going down to get the DE .50 on my way back from work today @ Turners. Thanks for all the reply's. Most of it just re-affirmed my subconsciously already made decision. I know the rounds cost more, but it's a friggin cannon and therefore worthwhile. I'll tell you guys all about it in 14 days!

[Lord of Alcohol]

Originally posted by MILAMBER: I'm going down to get the DE .50 on my way back from work today @ Turners. Thanks for all the reply's. Most of it just re-affirmed my subconsciously already made decision. I know the rounds cost more, but it's a friggin cannon and therefore worthwhile. I'll tell you guys all about it in 14 days!

YOU THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I'm ever in CA you have to let me shoot it! I'll buy my own rounds

[Sir Taliesin]

COOL!!! I wish it was me! Not that I'll ever be caught in Southern Cali (Gun control is just so harsh there), but if I meet up with you, I'll buy the ammo for both of us!

I started shooting at 6 years of age. My grandfather and father got me out in the backyard and taught me how to shoot a .22LR bolt action.
Of course I had to prop it up on a tall stool, cause it was too heavy for me to hold properly. I conveniced my mom and dad to buy me a BB gun when I was 9. I took a Daisy Safety Test in the Sunday comic page. When my grandfather died, I got the .22 bolt action. My Uncle also gave me my other Grandfather's Shotgun. Used to hunt all the time. So long ago... Then my love of firearms took of from there. I was an marksmanship instructor in the Army and Shoot competitively in College and in the Army Reserve. Mostly small bore and high power. I also used to shoot at local IPSC meets. Take the Deagle(as it's now been dubbed) to one of those and shoot it. Those are FUN!!!

[Wulfere]

Actaully I have been eyeing a .357 automatic. There aren't alot of them and the ammo is a bit on the pricier side, but it sure would be nice.
I would buy semi-jacketed hallow points. The gelatin tests were very impressive. Usually expending almost all of the projectiles energy within the block.
I believe the California Highway Patrol has adopted this ammunition.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol: Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, we need someone who is willing to be shot. Preferably multiple people. Then we can gather our weapons and have a scientific test, to be published in Soldier of Fortune magazine! So we need volunteers for the following calibers- 9mm 10mm .357 .40 .44 .45 .50 Please, its for science, name your caliber and we'll pop a few rounds in ya and check the stats with the other volunteers. STEP RIGHT UP LADIES (first) AND GENTLEMEN!

You get'em we'll shoot'em.
I'm personally partial to a 12 gauge 28 1/4" barrel and a drop gun for home defense

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by norompanlasolas: im not going to get in a discussion on guns, firstly because this isnt the thread for it, and secondly because its not worth it. it has striked me as really funny, though, and raised my curiosity, to see how many gun owners and gun "experts" are here on this forum (pretty much everybody above 25 years old i think). being a dungeonsanddragons, a roleplaying forum... one has to wonder if its because of reading a lot of rulebooks, or of actual experience. if it is because of real experience and love for guns, its even more amazing. i never thought so many people loved guns, had guns and shot them regularly. i dunno, maybe its different over here in spain, or i hang out with the wrong group of friends. the only guns i get to see are in hands of the police, and a dreadful sight it is (so you can understand, a lot of my friends are what you would call squatters, or okupas as called here).

1967, I was in 1st grade first ime I fired a gun, 410 shotgun, knocked me on my butt.
For me a gun in the hands of the police is only scary if you're looking down the barrel, Been there done that.

[Lord of Alcohol]

Originally posted by John D Harris: quote: Originally posted by norompanlasolas: im not going to get in a discussion on guns, firstly because this isnt the thread for it, and secondly because its not worth it. it has striked me as really funny, though, and raised my curiosity, to see how many gun owners and gun "experts" are here on this forum (pretty much everybody above 25 years old i think). being a dungeonsanddragons, a roleplaying forum... one has to wonder if its because of reading a lot of rulebooks, or of actual experience. if it is because of real experience and love for guns, its even more amazing. i never thought so many people loved guns, had guns and shot them regularly. i dunno, maybe its different over here in spain, or i hang out with the wrong group of friends. the only guns i get to see are in hands of the police, and a dreadful sight it is (so you can understand, a lot of my friends are what you would call squatters, or okupas as called here).

1967, I was in 1st grade first ime I fired a gun, 410 shotgun, knocked me on my butt.
For me a gun in the hands of the police is only scary if you're looking down the barrel, Been there done that.[/QUOTE]Yea no shit me too! Fun isnt it! [img]smile.gif[/img] Also caught a .22 through a finger woops!

[slayer666]

u seen snatch?? go wiht the .50

[Wurm]

Went shooting with my grand dad at 11, started playing D&D<--notice no "A" at 15...6 years in the US Army...responable gun owner since I was 12. So whats the big deal? ALOT of people own or use guns here. But since we hunt or target shoot and dont go on "Rampages" You would never know...The quickest way to find out though would to try to break into one of our houses....