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Old 06-02-2007, 01:39 PM   #11
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:51 PM   #12
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Drive-in drive-bys!

Oh and I have no idea where to get a gun in the UK, but I could lay my hands on any class A drug you would care to name if I wanted, and I know of no-one who would know where to get an illegal firearm from, except for perhaps the odd unregistered farm shot-gun...

So there's not always a correlation between banning thing and them becoming easier to get, but that's just personal experience.
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:55 PM   #13
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On the graphs in the second link, it indicates that the US has almost 9x the population of Canada, and yet the crime rates with or without guns is only roughly double.
What, where? I found this table:
Crime Statistics (Rate per 100,000)

Canada

US

US/Can

Murders with Firearms 1998

0.5

4.4

7.9x

Murders with Handguns 1998

0.23

3.3

14.5x

Murders without Guns 1998

1.3

2.3

1.8x

Robberies with Guns 1998

18

63

3.5x

Roberries without Guns

1998

78

102

1.3x


And it gives higher numbers. Note that those are already per capita.
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Old 06-02-2007, 01:56 PM   #14
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On the graphs in the second link, it indicates that the US has almost 9x the population of Canada, and yet the crime rates with or without guns is only roughly double.
The graph, if i'm looking at the right one is percentage of households with guns, not numerical population. As it is a percentage figure the difference in sizes of the populations would be taken in to account would it not? Not sure as its been ages since i've done an maths!
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