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Old 04-24-2003, 06:48 PM   #181
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Wau! No bartender! Wii !

For celebrating our new member ( Welcome Suzanna ) and promotion of bsftcs,
let's S & B ( and B for Bungleau too [img]smile.gif[/img] ), sneak into Jafin's wine cellar and take a drink! [img]smile.gif[/img]

And bsftcs:
I read your post and answer it tomorrow ( friday ).
On long school week, 3 exams and lot of work done...
I havn't have so much time, but I havn't forgot you!

From cold Finland, ( hoping it's not gonna snow tomorrow )
sunny greeting to everyone and happy Eastern! ( little late, but better than nothing! )
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Old 04-25-2003, 04:37 AM   #182
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Ta Bungleau, I've tried it but nothing seems to have happened just blue stars etc. Guess I'll have to go back now and try again more thoroughly. Now I'm stuck at Erathsmedor and I've said "elseramavin" and given him the shroud and he still won't open the door. He keeps asking me for the secret word to finish the rite. I keep saying elsara.... and nothing, nothing, nothing.

Either I have done something wrong or my game has gone bugmental. Oh well maybe I'll post a help topic and see if anyone else has had the same problem.

Thank you for all the warm welcomings, this is way friendly site, I pass a brew to you all.

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Old 04-25-2003, 04:40 AM   #183
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Hey I just became an elite waterdeep guard, that's so funny since I've drowned my characters so many times it's not funny. That must be what it really means, buried at the bottom. hahahahahaha.

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Old 04-25-2003, 07:32 AM   #184
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Suzy, talking with Erathsmedor is a bit intricated.
1. You must get the "secret word" from D'Soto. Typing "Elseramavin" at Erathsmedor without getting the password from D'Soto does not work. Also, if you already have the password on your answer list (i.e., if you have reset adventures) but you haven't got the password from D'Soto then the password does not work.
2. Therefore, release D'Soto and talk with him. Make sure that you have the signet ring with you (not necessary). Type "Mavin" (he will react at this word even if it will never appear on your answer list) and then follow your answer list. Select "Erathsmedor", then "Elseramavin" and then "Shroud". D'Soto will will tell you something like "... Go now and claim the Mavin! Now, I must rest". When you hear this then the password is okay. If you hear something like "Wait. There is more that must know..." then something is wrong and the password isn't okay.
3. Now, speak with Erathsmedor. He will make "Eh!?". This means that the password works. Let him drivel and give him the shroud when he asks for it.

If you haven't the valid password and if you have already given Erathsmedor the Shroud then, I am afraid, there is only one way of proceeding. The game follows the rule "killing a trigger triggers the action", therefore, if you kill Erathsmedor, the door will open (because Erathsmedor is the trigger that opens the door), you get the Mavin Sword and you can continue the game. Killing Erathsmedor has no concequences later in the game. Prepare for tough fight. You will get 1.8 millions of XP for Erathsmedor.
Another possibility is trying to steal the shroud from Erathsmedor, return to the Shurugeon Castle and speak with D'Soto. Then speak with the dragon again. I haven't tried it.
Another possibility is that the shroud will not be asked again after telling the valid password to Erathsmedor. You can try to make the password valid and tell it to the dragon again. I don't know.
Next possibility is the Vanish spell. Well, you won't have the Mavin Sword (the sword is nothing to write home about) but you will get the Staff of Death later in the game. The Sword and the Staff are the only weapons in the game that can hit (and kill) Cet. If you have one of them then you can still finish the game successfully. There is one little problem: you cannot follow the usual way from the Ishad N'Ha to Brimloch Roon because the way goes through the (now locked) door. But you can Vanish through the "pass" between Ishad N'Ha and Brimloch Roon. Leave the dungeon, go to the pass as close as possible, orient yourself parallel to the ledge leading from the dungeon to the Brimloch Roon area, save the game, and cast Vanish. You should be injected through the pass.
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Old 04-25-2003, 09:05 AM   #185
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Hey there, Suz! Greetz in the morning (here, at least ).

The key to Erathsmedor is that you must click on the word from the list. Once you've said it, it now shows up in your list and you can click on it. Give that a shot... otherwise, it's back to D'Soto
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Old 04-25-2003, 09:52 AM   #186
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but Radek, something weird kept happening to me when in conversation with D'Soto. after i got the password from him and i THINK that he did say he must rest, i proceeded to leave the room but when i reached the door, he kept saying "Wait, Wait, Wait......." until i turn back and walk towards him and he will say "There is more u should know, There is more u should know, There is more you should know....." and this carried on untill i juz got fed up and ran out of the room!
could this be a bug? [img]graemlins/saywhat.gif[/img]
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Old 04-25-2003, 09:58 AM   #187
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And 'cause she didn't show in here yesterday, a drink of her choice for Willow when she arrives... [img]graemlins/drinkup.gif[/img]

The cause for such generosity? Why, the tenth anniversary of her being able to legally drink! [img]graemlins/cheers.gif[/img]

Betcha didn't think about that one, Willow! Anyway, here's some [img]graemlins/cake.gif[/img] and [img]graemlins/1partyguy.gif[/img]
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Old 04-25-2003, 10:56 AM   #188
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Lionheart, I think that D'Soto will shut up only after your asking about not only "Elseramavin" but also "Shroud". The dialog with D'Soto seems to be completed successfully only if you hear "Go now and claim the Mavin". I am always doing the following:
1. Type "Mavin". It's short and D'Soto knows the word even if the word is never placed on your answer list. Let D'Soto react.
2. Select "Erathsmedor" from your answer list. It's there now. Let D'Soto react.
3. Select "Elseramavin" from your answer list. It's there now. Let D'Soto react.
4. Select "Shroud" from your ansver list. It's there now. Let D'Soto react. You will hear "Go now..." at the end.
5. Leave.
This always works. The password is valid. Erathsmedor will accept it.
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Old 04-28-2003, 03:00 AM   #189
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Hey there everyone!!! I know it's been a long time since I've been around but things have been a little chaotic lately for me and I haven't had a lot of time online. I don't know that I'll be able to make regular visits for awhile yet, we'll see though. And as several of you have pointed out, this thread IS getting a bit long. So, I'm going to start a Boogre Bar 5 now. See you there!

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