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Yes, well anyways self shall now go and do something else. Perhaps I will mail my congressman, if I can find his address (shouldn't be too hard, it's probably easily accessable if I know where to look [img]tongue.gif[/img] ).
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TIPS hits a snag. Seems the postal services does not want to play spy games with Ashcroft:
Postal Service Won't Join TIPS Program
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Lawmaker ? isnt that a drink or something ?
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In a great irony, the former Soviet Bloc nations are continuing to move towards more freedom and a more market-based economic system while here in America we seem to be moving to a more totalitarian system with lots of corruption by those in economic/political power. *sigh*
There is no way that any sane person with even a high-school-level grasp of political science can find Operation TIPS to be Constitutional. Most likely, if the program goes through the Supreme Court will declare anyone signed up for TIPS to be "deputized" and thus any search or information they produce will be an illegal search/seizure. Of course, if this happens Bush will most likely sign an Executive Order and the program will proceed anyway.... On the one hand I have nothing to hide--you can search my place. On the other hand, if I have a fight with someone they could call in to TIPS then say "he is doing something suspicious" and I will become the victim of a false accusation with no legal recourse. Not likely with me, but hypothetically possible, of course. This is definitely going too far. For years, many people have stated that they wouldn't mind giving up freedoms to win the "war on drugs". That is one war that has never, and will never, be won. The "war on terrorism" can also never be won--maybe you can stop some attacks before they happen if you get lucky, but the most reasonable conclusion is to maintain responsible vigilance.
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Just like McCarthy in the '50s. But instead of looking for Reds under the bed, we need to look for terrorists.
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