Remember when we had a surplus?

[Timber Loftis]

Originally Posted by John D Harris Oh and by the way this conservative Republican thinks that is how it should be, that's one of the things that makes the USA the greatest country on the face of the Earth, we ain't like the rest of the world.... you can do the search for where I wrote it durring a discussion with TL.

No quibble, here. I agree that babies flopped out onto our soil are our fellow citizens. But, in all fairness, it does create issues, "anchor babies" amongst them. I'm not saying we deny our traditions, just saying they have consequences...

[John D Harris]

Originally Posted by machinehead 33, among them Canada. The following are among the nations repealing Birthright Citizenship in recent years: Australia (2007) New Zealand (2005) Ireland (2005) France (1993) India (1987) Malta (1989) UK (1983) Portugal (1981)

didn't Canada repeal it in 2009?

[John D Harris]

Originally Posted by ElfBane Birthright citizenship is no big deal to me. AAMOF I don't really care too much about the immigration issue, as long as peeps realize that if ya get rid of 'em... expect groceries to go up. I think the E-Verify plan might be a good idea, but that sends some folks on the Right into conniptions because they think it's some sort of national ID card. Well, I got news for those folks, the national ID card is on the way... in some form or another. What do you think of E-Verify?

Why not use technolgy to verify if someone is a citizen.... but the real question is what do we as a nation do once we find out they aren't. If it is nothing then E-verify is a waste of time and money.

[John D Harris]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis In the long run (we're all dead, right?), I try to be as Fair and Balanced[TM] as I can. I just want things done right. But, thanks, I guess, for recognizing that I know my history. This was a big pie-in-the-sky dream of the Repugs, much moreso than it was owned by anyone else. Fannie and Fredie may have had Democrud ties, but the idea of home ownership for everyone was a Repug ideal, and they proliferated it with aplomb. Despite your usual misspellings, this is accurate. This has always been the case, and is a central problem with the SEC. I'd have to search to find what is the current bubble. Following the housing bubble, we had a big gas bubble. I'd have to search a bit to find out what the current bubble is. Wall Street is always selling us a bubble... following housing it was gas. How do we know what the current bubble is? Well, look to where Wall Street is telling the big pension fund managers where to put their money at the moment -- that, my friend, is the bubble. Me too. I wanted a Gov't shutdown. HALE, it didn't hurt us in the 90's, and really can't hurt us now. I wanted to see Gov't workers furloughed. Sadly, indeed we are.

ROTFLMAO know your history????? Hey TL go back an look at WHO it was who pushed the everybody has the right to own a house crap..... President Bill Clinton....

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thre...ons_drive.html
http://www.openmarket.org/2008/09/16...gage-meltdown/
http://www.4president.us/issues/clin...996housing.htm
http://www.themichigantimes.com/2.11...lace-1.1532366

Glad you like my mispellings anything to give you something to pick at and make yourself feel better

[John D Harris]

Originally Posted by Timber Loftis No quibble, here. I agree that babies flopped out onto our soil are our fellow citizens. But, in all fairness, it does create issues, "anchor babies" amongst them. I'm not saying we deny our traditions, just saying they have consequences...

everything in life has consequences,, Hale TL I've been preaching that ever since I started postin here. Some of them are intended and some aren't.

[machinehead]

Originally Posted by John D Harris didn't Canada repeal it in 2009?

No.