Raistlin vs. Elminster

Debaser · 11-02-2001, 04:01 PM

OK--I already posted this question at the end of the "Dragonlance or Forgotten Realms" thread, but I figured I'd make it its own thread so more people would see it.

My hypothetical question is, in an all-out mage fight, when both magi were at the peak of their power, which archmage do you think would win the battle--Elminster or Raistlin Majere. Keep in mind I'm talking about Raistlin after he won the fight with Fistandantilus, and his power at the point at which he was ready to defeat Takhisis...

I may be a little subjective, since I consider Raistlin the definitive BADASS when it comes to magi, but I would argue that Raistlin would win.

Neb · 11-02-2001, 04:12 PM

Well, if they fought somewhere were Elmunchkin did NOT have the gods protecting their favorite munchkinny Elmunchkin then Raistlin would slaughter him, if it was in the Forgotten Realms however, Elmunchkin would be defended by five gods or something and Raistlin would be killed easily.

Debaser · 11-03-2001, 01:28 PM

I'm talking about no godly allegiances, no godly interventions......just Raistlin versus Elminster, straight up.

and yes, i agree with you.....Raistlin would cream the old fart. because Raistlin Majere is the coolest damn mage to ever exist, and i doubt he'll ever be surpassed in coolness.

250 · 11-03-2001, 03:36 PM

no god allience? no divine being interven? that is IMPOSSIBLE

that is what makes Elminister Elminister. That is part of his strength, it is like to ask Raistlin gie up his time traveling magic, that is part of HIS resource, HIS STRENGTH

there is no point arguing who wins.

Elminister defintely wins. that is part of Wizard of the Coast's agreement, Elminister ALWAYS wins, he NEVER dies. he probally invented some magic like "kill you outright" or "win the duel" or "I-win-no-matter-what"

SSJ4Sephiroth · 11-03-2001, 05:13 PM

to me, the question is irrelevant. Aretmis Entreri will slice them both up before they can even scream in surprise.

250 · 11-03-2001, 06:15 PM

yeah, he can, IF he still have any piece of him left (not fried) at that moment

Dreamer128 · 11-03-2001, 06:22 PM

Off-topic question: isnt Debaser that Demon that got his butt kicked by Arch-mage Dion?

Debaser · 11-04-2001, 09:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
to me, the question is irrelevant. Aretmis Entreri will slice them both up before they can even scream in surprise.

yeah, that's only if he COULD take them by surprise.....not very likely, and even the smallest failure in such an attempt would mean Entreri's being would be rent asunder by god-awful magic.

Debaser · 11-04-2001, 09:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Velkyn_OHF:
Off-topic question: isnt Debaser that Demon that got his butt kicked by Arch-mage Dion?

Velkyn-
Can't really say...I actually have no idea what you are referring to. I took my screen name from the kickass Pixies song...

Dreamer128 · 11-05-2001, 04:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Debaser:

Velkyn-
Can't really say...I actually have no idea what you are referring to. I took my screen name from the kickass Pixies song...

Oh, well Debazzer is a demon from a series im currently reading. Pretty cool one too!

11-03-2001, 01:28 PM	#3
Debaser Avatar Join Date: June 15, 2001 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 43 Posts: 543	I'm talking about no godly allegiances, no godly interventions......just Raistlin versus Elminster, straight up. and yes, i agree with you.....Raistlin would cream the old fart. because Raistlin Majere is the coolest damn mage to ever exist, and i doubt he'll ever be surpassed in coolness. __________________ wHiTe MoOn\'S HoT...tHe OtHeR SiDe\'S NoT

11-04-2001, 09:38 PM	#8
Debaser Avatar Join Date: June 15, 2001 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 43 Posts: 543	quote: Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth: to me, the question is irrelevant. Aretmis Entreri will slice them both up before they can even scream in surprise. yeah, that's only if he COULD take them by surprise.....not very likely, and even the smallest failure in such an attempt would mean Entreri's being would be rent asunder by god-awful magic. __________________ wHiTe MoOn\'S HoT...tHe OtHeR SiDe\'S NoT

11-04-2001, 09:40 PM	#9
Debaser Avatar Join Date: June 15, 2001 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 43 Posts: 543	quote: Originally posted by Velkyn_OHF: Off-topic question: isnt Debaser that Demon that got his butt kicked by Arch-mage Dion? Velkyn- Can't really say...I actually have no idea what you are referring to. I took my screen name from the kickass Pixies song... __________________ wHiTe MoOn\'S HoT...tHe OtHeR SiDe\'S NoT

11-05-2001, 04:15 PM	#10
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	quote: Originally posted by Debaser: Velkyn- Can't really say...I actually have no idea what you are referring to. I took my screen name from the kickass Pixies song... Oh, well Debazzer is a demon from a series im currently reading. Pretty cool one too!

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11-02-2001, 04:01 PM	#1
Debaser Avatar Join Date: June 15, 2001 Location: Virginia, USA Age: 43 Posts: 543	OK--I already posted this question at the end of the "Dragonlance or Forgotten Realms" thread, but I figured I'd make it its own thread so more people would see it. My hypothetical question is, in an all-out mage fight, when both magi were at the peak of their power, which archmage do you think would win the battle--Elminster or Raistlin Majere. Keep in mind I'm talking about Raistlin after he won the fight with Fistandantilus, and his power at the point at which he was ready to defeat Takhisis... I may be a little subjective, since I consider Raistlin the definitive BADASS when it comes to magi, but I would argue that Raistlin would win.

11-02-2001, 04:12 PM	#2
Neb Account deleted by Request Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: . Age: 38 Posts: 8,802	Well, if they fought somewhere were Elmunchkin did NOT have the gods protecting their favorite munchkinny Elmunchkin then Raistlin would slaughter him, if it was in the Forgotten Realms however, Elmunchkin would be defended by five gods or something and Raistlin would be killed easily.

11-03-2001, 03:36 PM	#4
250 Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: either CA or MO Age: 42 Posts: 2,674	no god allience? no divine being interven? that is IMPOSSIBLE that is what makes Elminister Elminister. That is part of his strength, it is like to ask Raistlin gie up his time traveling magic, that is part of HIS resource, HIS STRENGTH there is no point arguing who wins. Elminister defintely wins. that is part of Wizard of the Coast's agreement, Elminister ALWAYS wins, he NEVER dies. he probally invented some magic like "kill you outright" or "win the duel" or "I-win-no-matter-what"

11-03-2001, 05:13 PM	#5
SSJ4Sephiroth Beholder Join Date: May 4, 2001 Location: The Outside Looking In Age: 37 Posts: 4,361	to me, the question is irrelevant. Aretmis Entreri will slice them both up before they can even scream in surprise.

11-03-2001, 06:15 PM	#6
250 Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: March 4, 2001 Location: either CA or MO Age: 42 Posts: 2,674	yeah, he can, IF he still have any piece of him left (not fried) at that moment

11-03-2001, 06:22 PM	#7
Dreamer128 Dracolisk Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Europe Age: 39 Posts: 6,136	Off-topic question: isnt Debaser that Demon that got his butt kicked by Arch-mage Dion?

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