4th edition dnd

[Kakero]

My beef is that until 4th ed, there's still no class that is dedicated to range attack yet. Until now there's still no Archer/Hunter class yet. What gives?

For pc gaming, I can't see many rpg that uses 4th ed. With BIS gone kaput, the only rpg that I see that uses 4th ed is probably Neverwinter Night 3.

[Rikard T'Aranaxz]

Originally Posted by Kakero My beef is that until 4th ed, there's still no class that is dedicated to range attack yet. Until now there's still no Archer/Hunter class yet. What gives?

You can specialize a fighter to be an archer. In my opinion, classes should be limited in number and great in possibilities. The more classes you make, the less people have to make their own decisions on their characters development

[Kakero]

Originally Posted by Rikard T'Aranaxz You can specialize a fighter to be an archer. In my opinion, classes should be limited in number and great in possibilities. The more classes you make, the less people have to make their own decisions on their characters development

No, my mental pictures of fighters is that they are meleer's, not range attackers. There should be more class option so that people have more choices. More choices mean more possibility of solving a given task using different type of classes. How many times can you play a game using the same type of class again and again before feeling bored?

[SpiritWarrior]

Wasn't there a prestige Arcane Archer class at one point?

[Gangrell]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior Wasn't there a prestige Arcane Archer class at one point?

They mention it in the Epic Handbook for 3rd edition. They had a few others besides, but nothing really special.

[SecretMaster]

The one thing that really does pique my interest with 4th edition D&D is the software that comes with it. If I remember reading correctly, there is dungeon design software and all that fancy stuff to make designing and playing all the more immersive. Then again, D&D was always about the imagination. But still, tools like that I always love to tinker with.

[Kakero]

Originally Posted by SpiritWarrior Wasn't there a prestige Arcane Archer class at one point?

There was a arcane archer class in nwn iirc. However that was a prestige class and you have to start out as another class (fighter => arcane archer) before you can choose that prestige class.

[Rikard T'Aranaxz]

i remember wanting to fo for arcane archer in my 3E session only to find out the arcane archer is seriously flawed. Taking 2 rounds to imbue an arrow with shocking grasp only to fail to hit the target is not more efficient then a "fireball in your face"

In the end i went for arcane trickster which is also flawed but more fun!

[Albromor]

Monsters not in the 4e Monster Manual. This is by no means an exshaustive list. Can you say 4e MM II?

Black pudding
Clay golem
Couatl
Dao
Dragon turtle
Djinii
Duergar
Flumph (just kidding =P)
Invisible stalker
Lammasu
Marid
Merman
Mimic
Nymph
Pixie
Pegasus
Remorhaz
Werebear
Shrieker fungus
Stone giant
Triton
Will'o'wisp

Plus...

Frost Giant
Iron Golem
Erinyes
Copper Dragon
Bronze Dragon
Brass Dragon
Silver Dragon
Gold Dragon

[Gangrell]

Originally Posted by Albromor Monsters not in the 4e Monster Manual. This is by no means an exshaustive list. Can you say 4e MM II? Black pudding Clay golem Djinii Invisible stalker Mimic Nymph Remorhaz Werebear Stone giant Plus... Frost Giant Iron Golem Copper Dragon Bronze Dragon Brass Dragon Silver Dragon Gold Dragon

The others aren't so out there, but these? All my earliest adventures had these in them, well, the first set of beasties anyway. Sounds like D&D is becoming rather bland.